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Free agency

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by sydmill, Nov 17, 2023.

  1. Rvo384

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    Translation: they are lining up
     
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    A superior blocker and a more dynamic receiver, he earned approximately a million dollars less than Dalton last season, so affordability is subjective.
     
  3. Rudyc281

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  4. Landry's Tooth

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    Who says no?

    You offer 3 years 40 million to Nico, fully guaranteed (includes last season of rookie).

    He would hit the market in his prime and take guaranteed life changing money in the meantime. He would have 3 years with CJ to build his resume for free agency....

    Texans would get him then for reasonable money...
     
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    If you want a TE who blocks well in pass and run pro, then Hunter Henry and Jonnu Smith are both superior to Schultz.
     
  6. Commodore

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    sounds like someone who already knows they are signing Barkley

     
  8. Marshall Bryant

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    I think the NFL would say no because incorporating the last year of the rookie contract violates the rookie contract portion of their agreement with the MLBPA. They can do the same thing structured with a straight extension of two years for $40M - $3,341,730 or $36,658,270 structured as negotiated between bonuses and salary. The nominal AAV for those two years would be $$18,329,135 which would fall between Evans and Ridley estimates on SPOTRAC and 90% of the franchise tag of $20,714,000.

    For those concerned by his lower stats in his first 2 years, don't forget he was sharing targets and snaps with Brandin Cooks as a rookie and injured in 2022.
     
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  9. Landry's Tooth

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    Yes, that would obviously be how to do it. I was emphasizing he's delaying free agency 2 years and not 3.
     
  10. J.R.

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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/in...cks-linebackers-tiers-money-contract-rankings

    Running Back

    Tier 1: Franchise players
    Free agents: Saquon Barkley, Giants

    If any back is likely to get a deal in line with the $11.9 million franchise tag, it's Barkley. While he isn't coming off a spectacular season with the Giants -- he averaged 3.9 yards per carry on his way to 962 yards -- he's a little better (and younger, at age 27) than the other options available. His skill set is a little more versatile, too. And while Barkley has had only two complete seasons at a Pro Bowl level, he carried the Giants' offense to the postseason as recently as 2022.

    Where should he land? I'd look toward teams that need to help their rookie-deal quarterbacks with playmakers, a group that starts with the franchise at the top of the draft. The Bears have the cap space and the hole at running back to justify signing Barkley, with Roschon Johnson filling the supplementary role he excelled at during college at Texas. The Texans have plenty of wide receiver talent, but Barkley would be an upgrade over running back Devin Singletary. He could also end up in a game of musical chairs -- with one of the teams moving on from its back this offseason -- and join the Raiders or Titans.

    Average annual salary projection: $12 million

    Tier 2: Pro Bowl-caliber starters
    Free agents: Derrick Henry, Titans
    Possible cap casualties: Nick Chubb, Browns; Aaron Jones, Packers
    Average annual salary projection: $9 million

    Tier 3: Capable starters
    Free agents: Austin Ekeler, Chargers; Josh Jacobs, Raiders; D'Andre Swift, Eagles
    Possible cap casualties: Alvin Kamara, Saints; Joe Mixon, Bengals
    Average annual salary projection: $7 million to $8 million

    Tier 4: Borderline starters/high-end backups
    Free agents: Tony Pollard, Cowboys; Devin Singletary, Texans

    These are two backs seemingly going in different directions. Singletary joined the Texans and eventually carved out a role as the featured back, setting career highs for carries (216) and rushing yards (898). He also held onto the football, fumbling just once on 246 touches after fumbling about once every 55 touches during his final two seasons in Buffalo. I don't know if any team will ever be thrilled about having him as its starting back, but he deserves more credit than he gets.

    Pollard, meanwhile, was franchise-tagged in 2023 and had his chance to prove his time as the featured back in the second half of 2022 was sustainable. Instead, hampered by the fractured fibula he suffered during the 2022 postseason, he showed little explosion and set career lows in yards per carry (4.0) and yards per reception (5.7). He got 17 carries inside the 5-yard line and turned them into just three touchdowns. Pollard is just 26 and should be fully recovered from his injury, but it's going to be tough for teams to project him into excelling as a primary back in 2024.

    Average annual salary projection: $4 million to $6 million

    Tier 5: Backups likely to net guaranteed money
    Free agents: AJ Dillon, Packers; Gus Edwards, Ravens; Ezekiel Elliott, Patriots; Antonio Gibson, Commanders; Zack Moss, Colts
    Average annual salary projection: $2 million to $4 million

    Tier 6: Backups likely to earn roster spots
    Free agents: Matt Breida, Giants; J.K. Dobbins, Ravens; Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Chiefs; D'Onta Foreman, Bears; Damien Harris, Bills; D'Ernest Johnson, Jaguars; Jerick McKinnon, Chiefs; Dare Ogunbowale, Texans; Cordarrelle Patterson, Falcons
    Possible cap casualties: Nyheim Hines, Bills; Samaje Perine, Broncos
    Average annual salary projection: $1 million to $2 million
    Restricted free agents: Cam Akers, Vikings; Rico Dowdle, Cowboys

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    Linebacker

    Tier 1: Franchise players
    Free agents: None

    Tier 2: Pro Bowl-caliber starters
    Free agents: Patrick Queen, Ravens

    The closest thing to a franchise player might be Queen, who had a relatively disappointing first 2½ seasons in the league. When the Ravens traded for Roquan Smith, the deal was partly a reflection on Queen's failure to develop into Mosley's replacement. It unlocked a new level out of Queen, however, and he played his best football alongside Smith. Queen improved to good in 2022 and was very good in 2023, producing career lows in yards per completion and yards per target.

    With the Ravens signing Smith to a massive deal and declining Queen's fifth-year option last May, the writing is on the wall for his future in Baltimore. The Ravens will pocket a comp pick and move on. The easy landing spot for Smith is Seattle, where Jordyn Brooks and Bobby Wagner are both free agents and former Ravens coordinator Mike Macdonald has taken over as coach. I'm not sure that's as simple of a fit as some have made it out to be, but Queen should end up getting something close to an Edmunds-sized deal somewhere this offseason.

    Average annual salary projection: $16 million to $18 million

    Tier 3: Capable starters
    Free agents: Jordyn Brooks, Seahawks; Lavonte David, Buccaneers; Willie Gay, Chiefs; Jordan Hicks, Vikings; Josey Jewell, Broncos; Frankie Luvu, Panthers; Andrew Van Ginkel, Dolphins; Devin White, Buccaneers; Bobby Wagner, Seahawks
    Possible cap casualties: Jerome Baker, Dolphins
    Average annual salary projection: $7 million to $10 million

    Tier 4: Borderline starters/high-end backups
    Free agents: Azeez Al-Shaair, Titans; Anfernee Jennings, Patriots; Denzel Perryman, Texans; Sione Takitaki, Browns
    Possible cap casualties: De'Vondre Campbell, Packers; Cole Holcomb, Steelers; Eric Kendricks, Chargers
    Average annual salary projection: $3 million to $5 million

    Tier 5: Backups likely to net guaranteed money
    Free agents: Cody Barton, Commanders; Devin Bush, Seahawks; Zach Cunningham, Eagles; Tyrel Dodson, Bills; Shaq Leonard, Eagles; Kenneth Murray, Chargers; Isaiah Simmons, Giants; Drue Tranquill, Chiefs; Anthony Walker, Browns; Mack Wilson, Patriots
    Average annual salary projection: $1.5 million to $3 million

    Tier 6: Backups likely to earn roster spots
    Free agents: Kwon Alexander, Steelers; Oren Burks, 49ers; Kamu Grugier-Hill, Panthers; Malik Harrison, Ravens; Nicholas Morrow, Eagles; Khaleke Hudson, Commanders; Josh Woods, Cardinals
    Average annual salary projection: $1 million
    Restricted free agents: Jack Gibbens, Titans; Christian Rozeboom, Rams
     
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  11. Marshall Bryant

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    I never know the background of posters and if they tell me I will forget. There are many who would have no clue. But the 2 year extension focusses in on numbers useful for comparison to the FA market and the Franchise Tax, at least the standard first time Franchise Tax.
     
  12. jch1911

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    Am I missing something or did they not include Blake Cashman here?
     
  13. Rudyc281

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    And some people still don’t want to invest heavily in the RB position
     
  14. Marshall Bryant

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    Unfortunately, players get lost on SPOTRAC at times. Cashman and Stewart disappeared off the FA list and Under contract list. Sometimes it's just an error and other times it might be confusion or lack of information on a status change.
     
  15. Von Rafer

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    The Texans better not pay Saquon or any RB a high dead-cap amount. Draft a guy on day 2 or round 4, sign a complimentary vet RB for cheap.
     
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    Mainly rhetorical with tongue in cheek (TWS.... never mind)
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  18. cmoak1982

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    **** no.
    Not trading that for a diva
     
  19. Fulgore

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    This! He’s in a great situation already and still unhappy. Great talent but no thanks.
     
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  20. Marshall Bryant

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    No. We're not that dumb. It has nothing to do with how good he is or isn't. It's the $96M - 4 year obligation for a thirty year old WR.
    Dear fans. You don't pay the player 100% value AND the Team 100% value. You divide it between them, usually the player gets the bulk of it because Teams keep players with high excess value just like we'll be keeping CJ and WAJ.
     
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