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Unofficial Official Offseason Thread (2024)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Tuckmose, Jan 20, 2024.

  1. Scarface281

    Scarface281 Contributing Member

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    You obviously wouldn't trade for him without some kind of agreement he'd sign long term here. It wouldn't be for a one year deal
     
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  2. Marshall Bryant

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    Except every year thereafter would presumably be at FA money and thus worth ZERO in excess value.
     
  3. J.R.

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    I’ll take Saquon for $11M/$12M

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/in...t-ends-offensive-linemen-tiers-money-contract

    Tier 2: Pro Bowl-caliber starters

    Free agents: Dalton Schultz, Texans

    While Schultz hasn't made it to the Pro Bowl during his six-year career, the former Cowboys tight end has the sort of performance background that could produce a Pro Bowl-caliber campaign on his next deal. After a slow start over his first month in Houston last season, the 27-year-old averaged 1.91 yards per route run from Week 5 onward, which ranked ninth among tight ends.

    Schultz was franchise-tagged for just under $11 million during his final season in Dallas in 2022, but after hitting the market a year ago, he signed a one-year contract for $6.3 million with Houston. This is probably his best chance at a multiyear guarantee, so I would expect him to split those two figures, either by re-signing with Houston or heading elsewhere.

    For teams that desperately need receiving help, signing Schultz would be a relatively low-cost way to add a middle-of-the-field and red zone target for a young quarterback. The Commanders, Patriots and Colts should be interested. One under-the-radar team might be the Rams. They don't typically make signings like this because it impacts their compensatory formula, but they have a hole at tight end with Tyler Higbee potentially missing the start of the 2024 season (knee).

    Average annual salary projection: $11 million per year


    Tier 3: Capable starters
    Free agents: Noah Fant, Seahawks; Hunter Henry, Patriots
    Average annual salary projection: $8 million per year

    Tier 4: Borderline starters/high-end backups
    Free agents: Gerald Everett, Chargers
    Possible cap casualties: Taysom Hill, Saints; Jonnu Smith, Falcons
    Average annual salary projection: $4.5 million per year

    Tier 5: Backups likely to net guaranteed money
    Free agents: Harrison Bryant, Browns; Josiah Deguara, Packers; Mike Gesicki, Patriots; Marcedes Lewis, Bears; Colby Parkinson, Seahawks; Irv Smith Jr., Bengals; Adam Trautman, Broncos; Charlie Woerner, 49ers
    Possible cap casualties: Will Dissly, Seahawks
    Average annual salary projection: $2.5 million per year

    Tier 6: Backup likely to earn roster spots
    Free agents: Blake Bell, Chiefs; Ross Dwelley, 49ers; Austin Hooper, Raiders; Brycen Hopkins, Rams; Johnny Mundt, Vikings; MyCole Pruitt, Falcons; Geoff Swaim, Cardinals; Robert Tonyan, Bears
    Possible cap casualties: Logan Thomas, Commanders; C.J. Uzomah, Jets
    Average annual salary projection: $1 million per year
    Restricted free agents: Tanner Hudson, Bengals; Brock Wright, Lions
     
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  4. J.R.

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    Here are three moves the Texans must make in 2024:

    1. Re-sign Jonathan Greenard

    …Greenard is poised to make a lot of money this offseason. Edge rushers with similar stats and age who have signed contracts recently include the Steelers' Alex Highsmith, Bears' Montez Sweat and Packers' Rashan Gary. Those three players’ average per year is between $17 million and $24.5 million. Greenard’s market will likely fall somewhere around there, most likely above $20 million, as edge rushers are paid at a premium now, especially productive ones.

    2. Spend more in free agency

    …Greenard was mentioned earlier, but linebacker Blake Cashman is another player the Texans should re-sign. He was the Texans’ most consistent linebacker. He played some middle linebacker, which was unfamiliar, when Denzel Perryman was out with a suspension.

    A few free agents who could help elevate the Texans include Azeez Al-Shaair. The former 49ers linebacker manned the middle for the Titans last season. He has a history with Ryans, who was his defensive coordinator in San Francisco from 2021-22.

    In addition, Ryans’ has said he will prioritize putting resources into the defensive line. Adding at least two defensive tackles — one in free agency and one in the draft — is vital too, whether that’s Sheldon Rankins, who was huge in helping the Texans go from the worst to the sixth-best run defense, or finding an upgrade. But the Texans can’t have a drop-off at the spot.

    Possible options include Christian Wilkins, a potential reunion with D.J. Reader, or Arik Armstead if the 49ers choose to save money by cutting him this offseason.

    On offense, there are multiple receivers who could make an impact. Curtis Samuel, who played the last three seasons with the Commanders and his first four with the Panthers, is a weapon who can be used as a receiver and a runner. He catches most of the passes that come his way and is a playmaker.

    Tyler Boyd is another solid receiver who carved out a role in Cincinnati as the No. 3 option. He’s a good blocker, something that would help the Texans as they try to improve their running game.

    3. Improve the running game

    With the Texans needing to improve in multiple areas in 2024, perhaps the biggest on offense is their rushing attack.
    The Texans ranked 23rd in the NFL in rushing yards per game and too often relied on Stroud to win games with his arm.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean the Texans should go out and sign a player like Josh Jacobs or Saquan Barkley, who are both free agents. In fact, the Texans should not do that.

    The markets on those players are expected to be north of $10 million per year — far more than teams are spending on running backs these days in a league that is geared toward the pass.

    What the Texans should do is re-sign Devin Singletary, who led Houston in rushing last season and shouldn’t be too pricey in free agency, and have him be the lead back when the season begins.

    If they can’t come to an agreement with Singletary, the Texans should go after running back DeAndre Swift to pair with Dameon Pierce, whom they must continue to develop in the hope he can regain his rookie form.

    But it shouldn’t stop there. The Texans ought to consider left guard on day two of the draft in case things don’t work out with Kenyon Green, the 2022 first-round draft pick who is probably on his last chance as he enters year three.

    And preferably one who can run block.
     
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    Definitely the longest one in about 4 years.:cool:
     
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    Seen Patriots could have close to $100M if they get rid of JC Jackson. With a Top 3 pick in the draft, likely QB, they have a chance to turn that organization around quick.
     
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  8. J.R.

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    The best wr in the NFL always has excess value. You don't think Jerry Rice has excess value despite being the top paid wr in the NFL? SMH
     
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    Yep, Belichek has them setup for long term success.
     
  11. Marshall Bryant

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    I don't think you understand the concept of Market Value. The best player in every league has a market value that reflects what he's worth.If you are lucky, he keeps exceeding expectations. I also believe you can pay any player too much or too little as they deviate from expectations.

    ps Spotrac and PFF estimate the market. They do not SET the market.
     
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    I believe I understand market value, the best players get paid the most after their rookie deals. This is why the Texans need to be aggressive now, because once Strouds rookie deal is done they will only have 2-3 more years to try to win championships due to the salary cap.
     
  13. A_3PO

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    Nobody disputes the Texans are in "win now" mode because of CJ and Will being on rookie deals. The question is how to best spend right now. They have so many holes in the roster that have to be filled. Sure, WR is a need but it isn't the one you gut your team for, even for a supreme talent like Justin Jefferson.
     
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  14. RHU525

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    Totally agree with you. You should never gut your team for a wide receiver. Or pay him big contracts. It literally sinks your team. Cardinals make Super Bowl sign Fitzgerald and never make it back. Falcons make Super Bowl resign Julio never make it back. Look at what chiefs and patriots did for years. If you have a great qb never over pay for a receiver. Value better spent elsewhere. Chiefs traded away best wr in the league and won back 2 back super bowls.

    Fan base always love receivers cuz they can be on your fantasy team. But it's doesn't produce winning.
     
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    Funny you would mention that. If we really believe in CJ, the Chiefs are the blueprint for the Texans. Have a top 3 defense and an all-world QB who makes things happen. The 'Reke trade was a genius move by the Chiefs. (1) They got a haul of picks for him to upgrade their defense and (2) avoiding his giant contract allowed them to pay other veterans.

    Trading multiple #1s for Justin Jefferson is the exact opposite move.

    Gotta say though, the Texans can't afford to go to the extreme and let their WRs become total junk like the Chiefs did.
     
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  16. Phillyrocket

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    What the Chiefs and Patriots proved is you don’t need all world WRs you need all world TEs.
     
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    Trade up for bowers.
     
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  18. deb4rockets

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    I doubt DeMeco wants to give up picks for a TE when he seems to be wanting defensive guys.
     
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  19. tc0330

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    yes, he's 24 and literally the best WR in the league lol will easily be a hall of famer and this is a rare opportunity for him to be available. throw the damn bag at him. spend small on D and just let CJ cook with nico JJ and tank
     
  20. OremLK

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    Would rather just draft a WR in rounds 2 or 3 and focus on the O-line and D-line in free agency/trades/first round. Our receiving corps is already decent, just could use a bit more depth in case we run into injury problems again.
     
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