1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Free agency

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by sydmill, Nov 17, 2023.

  1. Fyreball

    Fyreball Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,954
    Likes Received:
    12,237
    Bring in Barkley on a 3 year/$35M incentive-laden deal, Howard on a 1+1 prove it deal at maybe $9-10M, see if you can bring back Greenard, Schultz, and Cashman, and try drafting WR, DL, RB, and DB.
     
    UTSA2step, Rudyc281 and houstonstime like this.
  2. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,556
    Likes Received:
    156,491
  3. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    17,113
    Likes Received:
    8,826
    delete
     
    #763 tallanvor, Feb 23, 2024
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2024
  4. desihooper

    desihooper Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2000
    Messages:
    5,392
    Likes Received:
    2,597
    Looks like Nelson back in the fold?
     
  5. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,708
    Likes Received:
    8,365
    With the ability to create another 4.5 mil by cutting Woods and if they need more they can always go to the bank of Tunsil.
     
  6. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    17,113
    Likes Received:
    8,826
  7. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    Now we get to wait on news of HOW they are Franchising him, though the last time someone used the Exclusive Tag was in 2017. I also haven't heard of anyone using the Transition tag.

    But what does happen frequently is designation as non-exclusive, negotiation on a new extension, refusal to match an offer or a club house horror.
     
  8. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    Maybe? You can get this from anywhere between creating demand and almost certainty. It's not done until it's done. Signed, sealed and delivered. Most people forget the last two as if they didn't exist.
     
  9. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    I would not be opposed to doubling up at CB by signing Nelson and Drafting a CB to rotate in and out. Cooper, Wiggins and DeJean are each improbable individually, but not collectively at 23 and that's without a trade. DeJean is miscast as a Safety because he has been mentioned as a candidate to move to safety. But he's a CB. Nelson is over thirty, so we need a stronger backup, though 1st round might be too high.

    DeJean - 1-23 PFMock 89.3 DraftBuzz

    Wiggins - 1-22 PFMock 88.8 DraftBuzz

    Mitchell - 1-19 PFMock 87.2 DraftBuzz
     
    cmoak1982 likes this.
  10. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    I've never been able to outrun my debt like some have. It's a different time. I learned to avoid it in the first place. Now you accumulate it as fast as you can and walk away from it.
     
    UTSA2step likes this.
  11. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    I'm a bit confused about Howard. The only one I know about is our RT and under contract through 2026 with a ton of dead cap. Not even letting him go and offering him a prove it deal would save money.

    I ran across the Miami CB who could become available (cap casualty) if that is who you are talking about.
     
    #771 Marshall Bryant, Feb 24, 2024
    Last edited: Feb 24, 2024
  12. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,119
    Likes Received:
    8,121
    Depth was our main problem last year. Yes we should spend all our caproom, but great teams are built through the draft and a year after using a lot of future draft capital is not the time to repeat that.
     
    raining threes likes this.
  13. Fyreball

    Fyreball Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    14,954
    Likes Received:
    12,237
    I was confused by your post about being confused until I realized you were talking about Tytus Howard. I was suggesting we sign Xavien Howard, the CB from Miami that's going to be a cap casualty. He's still a very solid player that's from Houston, and putting him opposite Stingley could make this secondary really good.
     
  14. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    I saw that after I posted and before I read this post. Since he hasn't been evaluated on SPOTRAC, I have no idea what he would be worth. Nelson was at $10M ranked about 18th.
     
  15. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    Great teams are built using every means possible and using the ones that bring the most bang for the buck rather than falling into the window trap.
     
    Hemingway likes this.
  16. Hemingway

    Hemingway Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Messages:
    6,119
    Likes Received:
    8,121
    Agree. Also believe that great teams are built from the trenches out and that teams that are great have great depth, because injuries are a given in football. We got franchise players last year at the cost of future draft picks. I think we should either trade down for more draft picks or stand pat and use the draft to build up our depth. I think a stud DT in FA would have the biggest impact on our team than any other get. I’d sign DT, greenard, Nelson, schultz, singletary, and Fairborn for sure. I’m no draftnik, but cb, lb, and wr should be priority in the draft. A stud DT, WA, and Greenard will automatically make your secondary better while we wait on the CB to develop.
     
  17. Marshall Bryant

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2018
    Messages:
    8,873
    Likes Received:
    4,800
    Maybe we should be the Xavier team by adding Xavier Howard and Xavier McKinney to Xavier Hutchinson and see if Elon wants to sponsor team X.
     
  18. conquistador#11

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    36,125
    Likes Received:
    22,630
    I want Nelson back. All I izz saying is wait to the last week of free agency. If he hasn't been picked up, make him the offer then.
     
    UTSA2step and raining threes like this.
  19. Rudyc281

    Rudyc281 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    11,668
    Likes Received:
    9,316


    Looks who’s last….we need an upgrade!!!

    But some people don’t want to invest much in the running game smh

    And some people even still want motor as RB1 heading into next year smh
     
  20. Rudyc281

    Rudyc281 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    11,668
    Likes Received:
    9,316

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now