Rumors: JG4 refusing to be sixth man and believing him not being properly used

You might as well trade him if he isn't playing. Thinking about it no way Green comes off the bench. Next year being his 4th year is when he can earn his 1st max contract. He would ask for a trade.

This is the make or break off-season for Green's development. We should expect a huge improvement. Will we?

 

We should have expected a huge improvement this year. Or even a small improvement. We got neither.

 

Scrubs like Jalen don't really have the power to make demands, right now, his trajectory is looking to have him out of the league in a few years. If he throws a tantrum about coming off the bench, maybe sooner than a few years.

You can't be awful at basketball and act like a head case.

 

I went to go check out Rockets reddit and my god those guys are terrible.

 

He’s not “really terrible.” Nix was really terrible. Jalen is just extremely inefficient and not a good team player at this stage of his career. But again. The same people who are adamant about how Silas is solely to blame for the lack of development and improvement in our young guys, don’t want to give Ime a legitimate chance to develop the kid. His first two years were wasted. He isn’t playing well but that is not the same “really terrible.”

 

Agreed. Unfortunately, in similar circumstances it usually takes a fresh start to reboot that player. Ime is trying his best to motivate him within the system. I still hold a shred of optimism that JG falls in line and begins seeing results.

Technically - this team should be good enough to win without Fred and Tari - but in reality - they aren’t there yet.

 

Yeah, I'd argue that right now, he has more potential than when we drafted him. But that's the problem: it's all still potential. There are key parts of his game that don't seem to have improved at all, while many have regressed, like his obviously horrid 3pt shooting. But he's also learned a little, like how to (occasionally) play passable 1-on-1 defense and how to find open teammates, two things he didn't have a clue about earlier.

But Jesus, by now you really need to see improvement everywhere, and we can't lay the entire blame at Silas's feet. Jalen seems to have bought into his high draft status in the worst possible way and has thought he was definitely going to be a star. That sense of entitled stardom was obvious as far back as his dreadfully embarrassing dunk contest appearance.

 

No, Jalen Green is "really terrible"....he's got the lowest WS/48 on the entire roster, he has the 3rd lowest eFG% among qualified players in the entire league....or 141st best if you want to put it another way, and he's bottom 20 in the league in TS%


There's no one else you can blame that on, there's no way to spin it, Jalen Green is just flat out bad at basketball.


And this is despite being a professional basketball player for over 3 years now, not only has he not shown any significant improvement, in some ways he's actually worse than he was his rookie season.

We've given him MORE than a "legitimate chance", he wasted it.

 

The writing is on the wall. Jalen green sucks why can’t people just see that? I understand he’s young enough to improve but we really haven’t seen that from him have we?

 

The right way to use Jalen is to just let him dunk the ball with no defenders on the court … Wait he got to do that and still embarrassed himself.

 

One thing to keep in mind: Stone held onto KPJ way longer than he should have, despite some pretty blatant behavioral issues and the entire league hating the horrible team culture that he was a major factor in. He refused to admit he was wrong about the guy and send him packing.

It's easy to imagine him feeling backed into the same corner regarding the highest draft pick of his career so far and not wanting to give up on him just yet.

 

The value play may be to see how he develops coming off of the bench. Rockets can't get much value for him in a trade at this point anyhow. We can let the market decide his value after his 4th year and we have the right to match, so we have some downside protection, although the Rockets may want to move off of Jalen at the next deadline due to cap-hold issues (if he doesn't turn a corner by then).

There is still a chance Jalen could find a useful role in the NBA as a microwave scorer off the bench like Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford. That would involve him adopting a much more consistent game, but it is still a possibility.

Any possibility of him being a "max player" is just absurd at this point - just look at true shooting %, he is one of the most inefficient players in the entire league.

 

While I 100% agree have you paid attention to our team? Look at what KPJ got away with. Hopefully Ime benches Green but I'm not optimistic on this

 

Both can't shoot the 3. But at least Westbrook can attack the basket. So essentially Jalen is about as useless as a Russell Westbrook that can't attack the basket.

 

It does seem unrealistic for Jalen Green to get a max rookie extension. Only 3-4 players seem to get it in the recent past.

Draft Class: Players that got rookie max
2015: KAT, Booker
2016: Ben 10, Jamal M, Siakum
2017: Tatum, Fox, Donovan M, Bam
2018: Luka, Trae, MPJ
2019: Zion, Ja, Darius G
2020: Ant, LaMelo, Tyrese

For 2021, I would guess Cade, Scottie B, Sengun, and maybe Evan M.

 

If Jalen Green can accept, at least for now, a 6th man role is best for him he could get paid if he became the 2025 Sixth Man of the Year akin to Tyler Herro.

 

KPJ was significantly more talented than Jalen and the team was in tank mode while he was here....partly due to missing on the second pick in the draft which set back the team a few years.

 

I found the problem... look at the Saturday/Sunday splits.... Where is Jalen Friday & Saturday night?

I would only pay Scottie B & Sengun at this point... Cade & Evan M are too flawed - Cade is just as inefficient on offense as Jalen. Evan M. hasn't progressed offensively either.