Once again, the Bulls centers were not rim protectors and were not even as good as Sengun in defense and rebounding. Sengun is far superior to Wennington and Longley in all aspects of the game, and how many championships did the Bulls win without your "rim protector"? The Bulls' suffocating defense was due to the "Doberman defense" by Jordan, Pippen, and H. Grant, and later Rodman and Harper who all roamed the perimeter and shut it down. Defense is a team effort and perimeter defense is at a premium especially in the current NBA due to the abundance of excellent three point shooters. That is not saying that Sengun has no defensive flaws, but the team defense has been bad in both the recent losses and even wins. Singling out Sengun for the atrocious team defense is stretching it by miles.
I dunno about respectful and friendly atmosphere…Clutchfans has always been notoriously toxic and that’s part of the fun, honesty. Alperen Sengun will most likely be a Rocket for quite some time—and he’ll keep getting better.
Ugh. First, yes the Rockets need a true center that can block shots and flash to the rim and function in transition. Second, trading Sengun would be really dumb. Sengun is a PF that can slide over to center sometimes. The Rockets need to just play Sengun at the 4 and Jabari at the 3. Third, Sengun will have to learn to shoot better from 3, but he is certainly capable of learning to do that. Fourth- the writing on the wall is there, the Rockets are a lot better but not playoff good yet.
No lie. He used to be a turnstyle. Somehow he learned to be good defensively even with very limited foot speed.
Night in and Night we get destroyed by guards and you idiots keep bringing up the same tired non rim protector argument they did with Joker. The night after Cam Thomas drops 37 on us and Nick Claxton had 10 points I keep hearing how great Jalens defense was and how bad Senguns was LMAO. This fanbase is an absolute joke lol
"The franchise" doesn't care at all that a few rabid fans disagree about Sengun's future. There is no chaos. They're trying to win games and they'll make personnel decisions based on that alone.
Why give a roster spot to a giant if he is not played? That spot should be used for a young center prospect who is playable
You have not figured out why.....he is a good mentor, has the best friends in the NBA, well liked.... We all play along because Boban is a fine character and a movie star. And he comes cheap. Probably efficient in his 2 minutes per game...... I mean I like him too but it is not like he is contributing a lot. I think people are too obsessed with height and this thing...... Bobby has a 0.3 career blocks per game rate at height 7'4. Guards have better block rates. He is slow as hell. Below average rebounding. Do you think a midget like Fred Van Vleet would be in this league if he could not do what he does? Why is that FVV that much better at basketball even when Boban was 29. There is a reason to everything. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/marjabo01.html
We all understand very deeply that what you're saying is based on your eye test. To be honest we would have guessed you were doing that anyway. There's nothing to agree or disagree on about whether those projected statistics are worth the max. It is worth the max 100 times out of 100 unless you are going to go even more absurd and claim that Sengun will be the first such player to not get the max ever. Feel free to find an example of anyone averaging those numbers in any league on this planet at any point in any era and doesn't get the highest salary available. It doesn't happen, which is why this anecdotal argument of yours is falling flat. If he improves at the slowest pace for his age group, in 2 years he'll be giving us better defense and 24/10/6 along with a functional 3PT shot. This outcome is so likely right now that I'm sure no one on this entire board would be willing to make a tipjar bet that he won't achieve it. It's clear to anyone that with a couple of minor adjustments to hide him as you do with all star scorers, he can be the C of a top 10 defense. Your need to do things the old way will not matter in the future. We can back him up for 16 minutes with a rim protector. In a year or two, his 3PT shot will be good enough to play minutes next to a rim protector (just like KAT does in Minny right now). I'm sure Sengun can be our rim protector for 20-30 minutes a game. Things are looking amazing for our future. You just have a more negative opinion of Sengun than everyone else and your skepticism about his future is too far to have a serious discussion. You are on the very extreme negative side of Rockets and non-Rockets and media and players' opinions. You have the lowest opinion possible right now and that should be an alarm sign to you because you seem to be in this position as a pattern. Absolutely no one is unsure of how to build a championship team with Sengun as a key piece. You put good defenders around him and you should be especially strong defensively at backup C, SF and PG. We already achieved this when we were healthy (top 5-10 defense). We still are not fully healthy. The blueprint is out there. The evidence that Sengun can be part of a great defense is out there. You decide what your eyes see and in case you don't know how pattern detection works, your eyes will select things related to what you ego needs to be true in order for your ego to grow. If today you start telling yourself it is possible to win with an offensively transcendent and defensively challenged C, then your eyes will stop acting like a microscope for flaws and you will be able to see the big picture again without bias.
In a nutshell, you can live with him and you can live without him type of guy. Most teams are fine without a Boban on their team.
See @himbasketball the information is being fed to you constantly but your ego is overriding what's in front of you in the present moment. There's plenty of information that can make you say: hmm, maybe it IS possible to have a top 10 defense without an amazing rim protector, and I know for a fact that a top 10 defense is and has always been good enough to win an NBA title. We are not even a playoff calibre roster and we are capable of being an excellent defense when healthy. Imagine when these kids have more than a few months under Ime. Imagine when the offense inevitably improves and we are a little less reliant on defense for wins. You're taking an incredibly positive situation and painting it negative almost by force. You have to actively ignore relevant information to come to your conclusion. How do you explain the Bulls? How do you explain Jokic going from hugely negative defender to bad to decent to good to then having just one elite defensive playoff run to win a title? Believe me there were exactly 0 people saying Jokic's height would save him from his extreme lateral slowness, until after he won the MVP and title. There were tons of people saying Bucks will never win if Giannis sucks at making 3's. There were tons of people saying you can't build a champion without elite wing penetration and full sized rim protector (Warriors). Defenders like Sengun (people like Bogut, Lopez, Jokic) are at their best from their mid 20's onwards because they're using smarts and fundamentals rather than athleticism. I would have imagined we have to wait 2 more years for Sengun to be the C on a top 10 defense and I would have been fine waiting those 2 years given the insane offensive potential he's flashing (and you are minimizing). That he can do it now with just a few months of decent coaching and a healthy roster is well ahead of schedule and there's LOTS more defensive improvement to come from Sengun. Yes, just like Jabari did with his 3PT shot, Sengun is not going to jump higher, grow 3 inches or run much faster but he is going to improve leaps and bounds with confidence, experience and IQ.
