[ClutchFans] Heavy investment in Kevin Porter Jr raises serious questions about Rockets front office

Just one is usually the formula... two can cause problems... and their talent has to be worth it...
Maxwell on Rockets, Rodman on Bulls, World Peace on Lakers, Garnett on Celtics...

 

I think stone was trying to play the asset game. He got kpj for nothing and wanted to show his worth by pumping the value on kpj. Having him as head hancho and saying how much he had grown and changed. Signed him to a tradable mid tier salary with lots of outs. He wanted to pass the hot potato before the time ran out. Even tilman’s comments at the ime press conference seemed like a sell job trying to get someone to bite for a second before the draft. Kpj is a toxic asset and person. He should have been cut or bench when he started this stuff but again they thought it might tank the value so it wasn’t an option.

They had a **** sandwich they were selling with no takers, so they took a bite to prove it was good. Now they are in the hospital with Ebola.

 

False dichotomy detected

 

Fantastic article Clutch. Wish i would have paid more attention to some of these instances that were rumored even though the local and national media sort of skirted around it. I thought they should have waived him after the halftime incident, but reasonable people could make a case otherwise.

Now in hindsight, putting 2 and 2 together, and with the horrible revelation of him attacking his girlfriend, it’s untenable for Stone to continue on as GM or if he’s to remain, he cannot be the sole decision maker below Tillman.

This organization desperately needs a president of basketball operations like right this second. Rudy T might be too old but there are senior NBA people out there who would love the opportunity. Tillman might not do it because he’s part of the problem too obviously but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t.

 

Spoiler

 

it's quite funny that booby was btching about how green was getting everything handed him to the org 24/7 while ignoring that the coach, gm and franchise was literally doing everything they can to appease kpj and embarked on the failed pg experiment that was quite detrimental to the progression of the other prospects including green + sengun + smith. kpj stans were projecting quite heavily.

All it took was 1 single 50 pt game and they were lost in the sauce for kpj

 

Agreed - there needs to be a reckoning in terms of how this disaster happened and all of the evidence - as indicated in the article - points upstairs.

Again I wish someone at media day would ask these hard questions but given what we've seen from this team and just NBA ownership in general in terms of unwillingness to ever have to face the music, I'm not optimistic. Hopefully some indie journalism source takes this up

 

Was this posted today?

 

Nope, I have not seen that, that was a cryptic message before his car flipped and police found weapon, weed in his car.

He was checked mentally by the Cavs.

Cleveland, Ohio.

 

Well, we can add mental instability to the list of problems with him.

 

Because the plan was probably to trade him all along, they just weren't expecting him to do something this drastic. He signed a team friendly deal that's basically an expiring contract (with only $1 - $3 million guanteed next season) and there's no telling how he would have started acting when the season starts, losing his starter role. He was worth much more than the 2nd round pick the Rockets gave up to get him up until end of last season.

They would have made good in a potential trade had he not done one of the worst things a player can do. Showing up to the conference and Tillman/Stone/Ime making those public statements was a PR move to help improve his image and increase his value. If it weren't for stars (who demanded trades) not being dealt yet, KPJ probably would have been gone before the alleged assault, or traded for a better package (with no assault) before training camp. Teams just started engaging again, he just needed to keep himself together for a couple more weeks.

 

Stone should be fired.

I cant trust someone in that position who's judgement is so poor.
Yall here on the mb say this was a total shock and couldn't see this coming, whatever....

Dont care if yall are this bad at making decisions. The GM has to be better.

 

What happened with KPJ is a reflection of the org's inexperience. Boy did they learn a lesson quickly.

The mistake with KPJ wasn't in investing in him. It was in prioritizing him over others. it was in making him the starting pg AFTER you had drafted so many young players who needed veteran playmaking to develop. I have no issues with the 2nd chances Porter got, but rather the level of infatuation with him. It appears that the org's inexperience led them to fall in love with the possibilities and sweep the negative stuff under the rug believing naively he could mature and reform. It's one thing to give a player the chances to do that, another to put him up on a pedestal and build your team around him.

Stone absolutely deserves criticism for the prioritization of KPJ. Hopefully he has learned from this. Hopefully Udoka will stop this kind of nonsense from ever happening again.

Now, I am done with KPJ and just want to look forward.

 

Patrick is young, getting in good with the players, coked up and making decisions. Only some inexperienced, immature ass people would allow all of that to go on. Like John Wall said, no other franchise would allow it, probably because there's no other owner who'd let their 28 year old son run the whole organization right after they bought the damn team. They don't even have a real GM for Patrick to study under.

Overpaying for FVV was a good move, because you don't just get the player, you also get the agent (Rich Paul) who represents other current and future stars in the leaugue. With all the great talent the Rockets have, the Rockets front office could really f*** this up if Tilman doesn't make his son take a back seat for a couple years and hire a seasoned GM.

I get what he's doing for his son and their legacy, but if they plan on being owners for a long time, there's no reason to rush and put family in charge when they don't know wtf they're doing. That's like letting a family member who never cooked or manage a staff be a chef at one of his restaurants. Destined for failure.

 

The owner is held captive by the same heuristic that a lot of rich guys have: because they have succeeded in one thing, they believe they can speak or will their way to success somewhere else. The whole “think and grow rich” way of thinking is a drag on our society (and politics) especially when practiced by those who have power over others. The owner’s belief that KPJ would turn into a star point guard meant KPJ would turn into a star point guard, but the reality doesn’t bend to our will no matter how rich you are.

 

From his comments, I am suspecting the owner is the one who is more sentimental and sees KPJ as a son.

Stone probably talked him into this nonsense that his prodigal son could be a great point guard.

 

look even i’ve been referring to porter as loony toons the past 2 years. for stone, who knows the psycho firsthand, to hand out that ridiculous contract is the biggest indictment on his judgement. he cannot stay on as GM.

 

This should be article of the year for Rockets coverage in 2022, if not Houston sports coverage or the whole City itself for that matter.

 

I am not sure which one is Stone; Maybe both?

 

Lol. Dude you are HILARIOUS!

My question was, a player on any team PAST OR PRESENT!

The point of the question was to show that every team has dealt with a player who has been through the same things The Rockets are going through....its nothing new.