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Is It Stone or Udoka???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Imanimal, Jul 6, 2023.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    It's both.

    Stone for agreeing to it, and Udoka for forcing garbage players like Dillon Brooks on the team.

    When you have a bad GM and pair that with a head coach with sway over the FO who likes garbage, you get this offseason.
     
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  2. theDude

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    Don't you dare question his ability. He's been making deals since he was in diapers.
     
  3. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking
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    At many of my factories, I make sure the internet service does not extend beyond the offices. I.e. the internet service doesn't reach the factory floor. This keeps my people focused on the task at hand. Stone -- take note.
     
  4. ashleyem

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    Opting Oladipo over Jarrett Allen and LeVert, signing Theis over Olynyk, trading 2 1sts for Sengun, squandering 3 recent 1st round picks and 5 2nd round pick for a cap space that eventually left unused. What a utter failure.
     
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  5. Hard Rock

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    the Sengun trade was a steal for the Rockets.

    the rest yeah not so good
     
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  6. Rox>Mavs

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    No I think he meant abyss, the place where all our assets go never to return.
     
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  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Look here is the deal, STONE's job is on the line he is RIDE OR DIE with this young core, none of the signings are long term competitors....so if one or two of the following do not break out, he is gone, and we will reset again.

    Green, Jabari, Sengun, KPJ, Amen

    One or preferably 2 of them MUST HIT and hit big for Stone to stay, if not we will be Sacremento and start over.

    DD
     
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  8. BHannes2BHonest

    BHannes2BHonest 2 SOLID FOR WEIRD AZZES

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    Haven’t read comments yet but how TF is this Udokas fault?????


    Stone has a track record of this type of terrible asset management … and y’all blaming Ime??? Wow.
     
  9. rocketchamp

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    Stone slander continues. Fred Van Fleet was rightfully signed this offseason, fantastic draft, solid young core etc..Yet ppl here are whining about TyTy & Garuba? Like I've said, the Stone hatred extends past basketball. If this were Morey you'd be praising him right now
     
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  10. topfive

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    Yes, general manager for an NBA team, drop whatever you're doing and spend some time on a fan forum so you can eventually stumble upon this post by a random anonymous dude bombastically pontificating from behind a keyboard, and when you do, by all means change your approach to coaching!
     
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  11. daywalker02

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    It looks like Udoka wants someone or something, and Stone doubles down on it with extra moves. Horrendous.

    A situation of miscommunication or failed cooperation.
     
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  12. daywalker02

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    Seems odd that you defend like rocketchamp the only dude who is a Stone diehard.
     
  13. topfive

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    My opinion of Stone had nothing to do with that reply I wrote. I just find it comically absurd that someone is trying to give management advice that he uses in "many of {his} factories" like a real NBA GM would a) ever read that post, or b) actually give a ****, or c) that the answer to any problems Stone might be having involves employees "beyond the offices" having internet access. I mean, WTF? o_O:rolleyes:
     
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  14. daywalker02

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    True. Maybe it was meant as a joke.....

    But I find it also weird that rocketchamp seems to be shilling for a GM who has lost multiple picks/young players now, right around this time.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Random anonymous dude? LOL. I am here to enrich all of you through education, motivation, and entertainment. Stone is a reformed corporate lawyer. I hire these people routinely and my experience is that their business sense is awful. Too risk averse and lacking in creativity is the common critique. They give advice to me but do not make decisions. After the last week, we may need to apply a similar set of handcuffs to Stone!
     
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  16. Verbal Christ

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    This is 100% on Udoka. He's asked for these players and he sold the front office that he can win with this group. Stone gave him the keys and has kicked back smoking a 1964 Padron and waiting for results. No excuses - if this team fails miserably its all on Udoka.
     
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  17. rocketchamp

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    Terrible asset management? We had 60 million in cap space with very good young core. Did you forget??
     
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  18. LikeMike

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    The problem isn't necesssarily this offseason. It started way before. It's about asset-management.

    I don't mind losing Garuba or Christopher or even TyTy - I had neither of them breaking the rotation. Why did I think that? Because none of them was really playing any amount of minutes that would let me make that assessment. We were tanking - yet we didn't give our 3 first round picks any meaningful playing time. On the other side, I was pretty sure (and early on) that Nix wouldn't be part of our future, yet he played a lot the whole season. So if we didn't have any trust in these 3 first rounders, why would any other team? Wasted assets.

    KJ Martin? He demanded a trade, we played him a lot. He was maybe the most entertaining player, but he was also bad at defense. It seemed like we should be able to get a first for him - we got two seconds.

    Now from a pure player perspective I get each move. We got rid of young players, that wouldn't get any playing time and we got veterans to help with attitude and structure (FVV) and defensive aggressiveness (Brooks). We overpayed for FVV, but as we can cut him after 2 seasons, that's ok for me. We overpayed for Brooks and gave him 4 years, that's a lot tougher to swallow.

    So overall I like our offseason - but with better asset management we would have gone out of this with two additional future first round picks and we maybe would have signed Brooks to a shorter deal.
     
  19. rocketchamp

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    Price of tanking. The tank has been successful thus far btw
     
  20. Yung-T

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    Nook and others have made it pretty clear that Stone wanted Dillon before Udoka became coach and would've went for him either way.
     
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