Uh huh…. Adding to the legend that is Playoff James Harden…… That’s the type of worker we want next to our young core!
Harden will absolutely be a cog, we are not signing him to score 30 points and have 35% usage rate just so we can win…we are not signing him to single handedly carry the whole squad Oh yeah, and when will that be? well that’s u
there’s plenty to attack Harden about in the playoffs…some useless “he didn’t score in the 4th of games 5 and 7 that were already over” isn’t one of them A for effort I guess
If we do not draft Scoot Henderson, I’m offering Harden the 4 year max on day 1 of free agency. if we luck into Wemby and sign Harden, I’m packaging up KPJ, Sengun, Tate, and loads of draft capital for the next disgruntled star that wants out (eying you Jaylen Brown). I don’t understand why so many can’t seem to see the vision. Harden is the 4 year bridge to get the core meaningful reps before they take over completely in 2027, when they’re all 25ish and hitting their prime. It’s not your money. They can still resign whoever they need to down the road. This is not a hard decision for Stone IMO..
this assumption that Ime is some magician is hilarious. Yeah he's a solid coach but folks acting like adding him is like he some all nba player on the court actually playing. No it doesn't work that way. A coach is always going to be as good as the players he gets to use. And well right now he still has a bunch of kids who have no idea how to win at this level. And no, letting children run around without any actual impact players on the court with them who matter does not translate to meaningful games and development. You can wish and hope that happens but in reality it doesn't. All you would see is more of the same for the last 3 years. The only difference would be a different scapegoat
So you're saying once you cross a certain threshold of achievement everything after that is gravy and we should all be happy to be there no matter the ass level of play? I don't except that. one thing I KNOW. Harden will disappoint you somewhere on the road to your goal - championship, unexpected finals run, or play in, Harden will make you wonder why you're a fan 100%.
I didn't say that Ime is a wizard. Ime is a coach. that is the improvement from silas. Silas got you guys thinking the kids are awful players, that's how trash a coach he is.
But why is the goal necessarily just getting to the playoffs as quickly as possible? Shouldn't it be building the best possible team to contend in the long run? I get that everyone wants to see this team win and to avoid giving OKC high draft picks. I want that, too. But I don't want the front office to rush into signing someone like Harden to a long-term deal at max dollars who will come in, force the team to play his style just to get a moderate amount of success and killing the kids' development in the process. That's the worst possible thing they could do. I would rather they be bad a few more years and learn to win their way while adding players who will fit into a style of play Udoka wants to run. If that means gifting OKC some good draft picks the next few years, I can live with that as long as they're developing the kids the way they need to be developed.
Shook, why are you so focused on Harden embarrassing himself? Are you going to have playoff success aspirations if we were to get Harden and just have PTSD of all the let downs?? You have to take out the factor of the Rockets looking to have playoff success in the next couple of years. At this point, I just want to get away from being a low 20 win team. Harden can help us become better, not have the pressure of performing. We will have fun being a good regular season team again and having hope that one of the young guys will hope during a potential play-in situation.
improvement is relative. It's going to take a lot more than just saying Ime is your head coach to actually take the next step No, some of us realize kids just don't win at this level without proper help to get them there. blaming it simply on the coach is ymca logic. letting them just run around as they've done for 3 years is also ymca logic
Harden and kpj had the same usage last season basically. You’d be replacing a horrible playmaker with one of the best in the league. Like him or not, if the goal is to improve the team, he’s by far the best option.
Are u not aware that this team has been the worst in the league the last 3 years? Expectations and context matter. Once a certain baseline level of success has been accomplished, then expectations are adjusted as we move on to the next step. yes, I will be happy if the Rockets made the playoffs next season regardless of if it ended in a Harden choke game
Why in tf would you mortgage the future for a bridge? He’s no where near the player he was here. Hell, gamble on Reaves, Johnson, Bridges. He does nothing for this team at that price. If he’s coming here for pennies on the dollar I’m listening. But we all know that’s not happening. Not to mention he’s never won anything anywhere. I don’t get how he’s a fit for this club. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
Why in tf would you mortgage the future for a bridge? He’s no where near the player he was here. Hell, gamble on Reaves, Johnson, Bridges. He does nothing for this team at that price. If he’s coming here for pennies on the dollar I’m listening. But we all know that’s not happening. Not to mention he’s never won anything anywhere. I don’t get how he’s a fit for this club. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
The worst thing is that we actually have money when there’s no real max player free agents available. It sucks!
I am sorry, but I don't buy the argument that the young players on the team are helpless sponges that will just adopt the bad habits of Harden if he comes here. There is a bus full of coaches, councilors, development specialists, etc. Harden simply helps you skip the 2-3 wasted years of ramp up time in developing teams. He gets you into meaningful basketball games, quicker.
it doesn't even mortgage the future. some of you folks saying this just to sound cliche and "right". In reality though, it doesn't stop the rockets from anything especially with the cap rise. by the time the kids are up for contracts in the best case scenario that they deserve, harden's deal is done and by then he would have done his job and the kids are ready to go off on their own. there's nothing happening in the next 3-4 years that mortgages the future. Mortgaging future means stupid ass moves like giving up 1st round draft picks to get players like westbrick. Oh wait that did happen. and the rockets don't control their own draft for the foreseeable future because of it.
