1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2023 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 10, 2023.

  1. RussE

    RussE Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2017
    Messages:
    11,839
    Likes Received:
    8,747
    Hmm...I guess Abreu DH's with Brantley at 1b.
     
  2. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    6,434
    I agree on the way-too-early part about knowing what their needs are until Altuve, Brantley, McCormick, and McCullers are back. I think a reliever is the most likely need. Will have to see how the offense shakes out when everyone is back. Of course injuries can change that...
     
  3. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,189
    Likes Received:
    15,144
    I agree. My list wasn’t really a prediction. If I were predicting I would also say they will end up going after a RP. Chapman and Hand both seem to make a lot of sense in the early analysis given their upside and cost. But the Astros always cast a wide net when shopping for RP so it’s very hard to predict.
     
  4. Screaming Fist

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,588
    Likes Received:
    2,919
    If France continues to perform I would probably prefer him over another FA reliever unless it’s someone special.
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  5. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,189
    Likes Received:
    15,144
    That is one thing I feel pretty confident about; if Houston makes deadline moves, they are going to be for impact players. They have a bevy of hitters who project as league-average bats and pitchers who project as effective relievers. I can’t envision a scenario where they acquire a mediocre player like they did with Mancini and Vazquez last season.

    I know Ohtani doesn’t make sense on the surface because Houston has a full rotation, a star DH, and a weak farm in terms of elite prospects. But he is by far the best player likely to be available and if adding him just means bumping Abreu/Brantley into a 1B platoon and bumping McCullers and Urquidy to the bullpen, it is easy to see how he could really improve the team. Say Urquidy, Gilbert, Barber, and Whitley for Ohtani.

    Playoff roster:
    2B Altuve
    3B Bregman
    LF Alvarez
    DH Ohtani
    RF Tucker
    1B Abreu/Brantley
    SS Pena
    CF Dubon/Meyers/McCormick
    C Maldonado/Diaz/Salazar
    SP: Valdez, Ohtani, Brown, Javier
    RP: McCullers, Pressly, Abreu, Montero, Garcia, Neris, Maton, Stanek, France
     
    #545 Snake Diggit, Apr 29, 2023
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2023
    snowconeman22 and travfrancis like this.
  6. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    6,434
    Towards the end of season yea it would make sense. However, I feel like they need to keep him stretched out in AAA as protection for a starter getting hurt.
     
    Screaming Fist likes this.
  7. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    6,434
    No question Ohtani would be awesome and they can make it work for 2 months plus the post season.

    However, pretend you are the Angels GM and the Astros are asking about Ohtani. What are you asking for? If I'm the GM the price is starting with Drew Gilbert and Bryan Abreu....
     
  8. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,189
    Likes Received:
    15,144
    The hypothetical I proposed above is probably too heavy, but I expect the bidding to be insane. I agree Gilbert plus an established big league pitcher (Abreu, Urquidy, Garcia) gets Houston in the conversation, but I’m assuming they will have to add at least one 2nd tier prospect (Barber, Clifford, Whitley, Melton, Leon) to that.
     
    snowconeman22 likes this.
  9. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    5,460
    Likes Received:
    6,168
    Why would they play a guy who has no 1B experience just to DH the 1B?

    The only reason for Brantley to play 1B is to give Abreu a rest and I hope it happens at least once per week.
     
    No Worries and Snake Diggit like this.
  10. BlindHog

    BlindHog Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2021
    Messages:
    1,471
    Likes Received:
    1,088
    Two months of Ohtani is not worth the career of Gilbert especially to a team that will be in contention without him anyway. The highest bidder for Ohtani will be someone looking for a way to get past the Astros or someone confident that they can sign him long term. Either way that is not us.
     
    The Beard, Snake Diggit and Redfish81 like this.
  11. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    6,434
    I agree. The price would be too steep for the Astros.
     
  12. Mattician

    Mattician Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2013
    Messages:
    1,746
    Likes Received:
    2,269
    Is there just no way Alvarez ever sees playing time at 1B?
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    85,784
    Likes Received:
    84,193
    No.
     
    No Worries and Wulaw Horn like this.
  14. RJ2311

    RJ2311 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2023
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    34
    Kinda wish there was. He'd **** some boys up.
     
    IBTL likes this.
  15. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    5,460
    Likes Received:
    6,168
    Hensley is not playing like the Hensley from last year. There is a fine line between having a good eye and being too passive. He needs to go back to Sugar Land and rediscover himself.

    Where is the mad scientist who can make a Julks-Hensley clone? A player who has perfect balance between Julks aggressiveness and power, Hensleys patience, and can play 6 positions.
     
  16. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    31,044
    Likes Received:
    14,595
  17. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,556
    Likes Received:
    156,490

    [​IMG]
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  18. torque

    torque Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2003
    Messages:
    4,837
    Likes Received:
    925
    Jeremy Pena started off slowly so I think it's going a bit unnoticed but he's been playing a lot better lately, both at the plate and in the field. He leads the team in bWAR and is second on the team in fWAR. He's on pace for about 6.5 bWAR. Star level stuff.
     
    Screaming Fist likes this.
  19. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,556
    Likes Received:
    156,490
    @Snake Diggit What would we have to attach to move Abreu? ;)

    We’re stuck. :(

    New 1B Michael Brantley
     
  20. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,189
    Likes Received:
    15,144
    It will not happen but he could be traded for another bad contract or as a financial offset to increase prospect return for another team. I have considered Abreu for Kris Bryant as a pretty fair deal. Of course that might be trading one bad contract for an even worse one.
     
    J.R. likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now