1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

How GOOD was Yao Ming Actually

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by amaru, Nov 3, 2018.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,587
    Likes Received:
    11,357
  2. YaoMac09

    YaoMac09 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    2,425
    Injuries aside … I really wish Yao / Rockets spent more time developing his outside game. He had a great midrange but barely shot it. It could have been extremely helpful when teams were fronting and doubling him. Yao was dominant but extremely one-dimensional. Deny him the ball and he’s done for. Fail to do that then it’s an automatic 2 against you.

    I wonder what type of career he would have had if he kept the slender more agile frame he had in his rookie season.

    Regardless the Rockets ****ed up bad not getting Yao/Mac help in the earlier years and then waiting too long to trade Tmac’s corpse.

    That Lakers series really summed up Yao’s career. Championship potential WHEN HEALTHY … but he was never healthy.
     
    ramotadab likes this.
  3. riko

    riko Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    9,634
    Likes Received:
    16,083
    The behind the back full court play against the blazers is one of my all time favorite Yao moments
     
  4. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    56,349
    Likes Received:
    48,254
    Yao would be a HOFer if he didn't have to play in the 80s.
     
  5. DCkid

    DCkid Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2001
    Messages:
    9,561
    Likes Received:
    2,515
    Referees had no idea what to do with him. Probably got more no-calls than any player in NBA in history. Not allowing players to crawl and scratch all over him would’ve helped. Not to mention he should have had at least been shooting 5 or 6 extra free throws per game and was something like an 85% free throw shooter. You do the math.
     
    clos4life, TheJet, fryjol7 and 6 others like this.
  6. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,587
    Likes Received:
    11,357
    Carroll Dawson ruined him. He had a great pick an pop, but Dawson wanted him to bulk up and play in the post.
     
    clos4life and hajkov like this.
  7. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    17,079
    Likes Received:
    20,704
    Yao Ming aka Rik Smits.
     
    tinman likes this.
  8. xiki

    xiki Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2002
    Messages:
    17,501
    Likes Received:
    2,889
    Rik Smits was underrated. Yao was better, much so.
     
    clos4life, groovemachine and topfive like this.
  9. likestohypeguy

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    3,726
    Likes Received:
    1,761
    Front, Yao, side to side
    Front Yao side to side
    =carl boozer
     
    J.R. likes this.
  10. hajkov

    hajkov Consummate Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2003
    Messages:
    1,249
    Likes Received:
    2,102
    Yao basketball skills, and IQ wise is one of the best centers in history...

    The excessive bulking in the 00's era killed his career. All centers at the time was bulky and they tried matching him.

    Today's NBA would have been different. Guarding the likes of Jokic, Embiid, with this lazy ass defense era.... = much longer and successful career.
     
    clos4life and mikol13 like this.
  11. YaoMac09

    YaoMac09 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2008
    Messages:
    4,862
    Likes Received:
    2,425
    Shaq professionally hates on 99% of big men and CLOWNS on Dwight ... but respects Yao. That says it all really.
     
    clos4life, fattz and groovemachine like this.
  12. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    18,380
    Likes Received:
    18,403
    At Yao's peak/prime, if we were going up against a prime Shaq I would not worry about that matchup. That's how good he was. Not only could you rely on him, but you were almost certain that he could rise to any occasion and surprise you as well. He was tremendous in big moments and big games.

    Teams used to shift massive chunks of their offense into jumpshots just because Yao was patrolling inside. You'd constantly see players taking jumpshots they wouldn't otherwise take. His defense was very underrated.

    In 2006-2007, he was certainly an MVP calibre player at age 26. He was averaging 25 points (would have easily been 30+ points these days) and patrolling the 3rd best defense in the NBA. Our guard rotation was an absolute joke defensively featuring Luther Head, John Lucas III, Tracy McGrady and Rafer Alston. It was an atrocious collection of players around Yao and the inconsistent T-Mac plus JVG had 0 creativity on offense. That was a championship calibre Yao if you ask me. His jumper was fluid, post game solid and understood what it takes to win a game. It's a shame he didn't have a more winning-oriented sidekick than T-Mac and Steve Francis.
     
    clos4life likes this.
  13. fryjol7

    fryjol7 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,357
    Likes Received:
    1,730
    I remember everyone complaining for several seasons about us not having someone competent at the entry pass. We also never had someone maximizing his offensive skills coaching wise. Everyone was trying to make him adjust to their style, you can argue he is a pretty unique player.
    Also, some of our roster moved did not help as much as we planned. The Eddie Griffin trade cost a lot of draft capital, gave the Nets 1 starter and a couple of rotation players and the guy could not get out of the potential phase. We tried Maurice Taylor too. Best partners were Chuck Hayes and Luis Scola I believe.
     
    Xerobull likes this.
  14. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,525
    He was great until he became injury prone. It was unfortunate that his coach coming into the NBA was JVG though whose only idea of how to use a big man was to bulk him up and had him pound the ball inside over and over. That he also had to play for China in worthless global games year after year was unfortunate as well.
     
    Xerobull and clos4life like this.
  15. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,859
    Likes Received:
    43,275
    Yao would be different, Jeff wouldn't be there and he might not have bulked up that much.
     
  16. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,095
    Likes Received:
    40,698
    Should have traded Tmac and Yao with Vince Carter would have made the finals
    @leebigez
     
  17. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    35,248
    Likes Received:
    24,298
    If Daryl Morey was the GM when Yao came, history might have been very different.
     
  18. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,859
    Likes Received:
    43,275

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now