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2022 Midterms

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  1. JayGoogle

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    A lot of smart people actually believe that the older you get the more conservative you get. Which isn't at all true.

    The GOP will just have to change their stances on a few things in the future in order to appeal millennials eventually, not sure what that will be.
     
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  2. geeimsobored

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    That's because of the way the redistricting amendment was written. It gave the Supreme Court explicity authority to strike down maps but didn't give it the authority to draw replacement maps. Effectively, only the commission can actually draw maps, so it led to this circular process where the commission just passed the same map over and over and the court kept striking it down.
     
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    Yes I think there are ways they can if for some reason the majority doesn't have the majority of votes at hand to shoot down any attempts at a vote for a new speaker.

    If the Republicans had one or two people out sick or something I doubt the Democrats do that, but you know the Republicans will for sure do that. However if the Republicans have one or two reps pass away, or have to resign out of scandal, I do think the Democrats would have enough time to vote for a Dem speaker. I'm sure that state though would hold the special election as fast as they could to avoid that from happening.

    So if for some reason it's only a 1 or 2 vote majority either way, you will see battle royale special elections for hundreds of millions spent on each one.

    .....

    How would they do this:

    The House rules say that they take the vote for Speaker at the beginning of each session, but if they have the majority of votes then AT ANY TIME they can vote to change the rules. Just like with the filibuster how it's just a rule, not a law.

    Not a cake walk to get done (re-writing the House rules), but if there's a will there's a way.
     
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  4. geeimsobored

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    Seems like Mark Kelly has this. He's consistently outperforming Biden on the mail drops thus far (even in rural areas). The Maricopa and Pima drops today have been excellent for him.

    I imagine Masto should be fine as well based on the Washoe and Clark drops but we still have to wait on those. Either way, so far so good for the both of them. Getting the 51st seat is actually a big deal because Dems would no longer have to agree on an organizing resolution with McConnell. That means Dems can implement proxy voting in the Senate (like they do in the House) which would be important given how old everyone is. Makes it much easier to confirm judges and nominees when the geezers in the Senate can vote from home on occasion.
     
  5. Major

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    And no one Democrat would have veto power over judges, confirmations, etc.
     
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    nm
     
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    Boebert race too close. Think she holds on now
     
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  10. geeimsobored

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    There is a privileged motion in the House rules to remove a speaker mid session. Historically, any member could invoke it (like a vote of no confidence in parliamentary systems) but at some point it was changed to where only the caucus leaders can make the motion. I think one of the recent Republican majorities in the House (maybe 2016) changed it because Mark Meadows kept threatening to make the motion because the freedom caucus wanted to throw John Boehner overboard.

    I imagine they would have to rewrite the rule if we get into a scenario where there are single digit majorities. So whoever was the majority would probably remove this
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-freedom-caucus-option-removing-speaker-price-mccarthy-gavel

    The House Freedom Caucus is pushing for a congressional rule change that would make it easier to remove a House speaker in exchange for its support in Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's ascension to the post.

    The Freedom Caucus is angling to include a provision within the House Rules package allowing for any member to offer at any time motion to vacate the speaker's chair – a change it will push for assuming Republicans take control of the House. The parliamentary gambit would let hardline members force a vote on retaining the speaker, a process that conservatives used to paralyze the House during the Tea Party era.

    "Every member of Congress was elected to legislate on behalf of their constituents," said Rep. Andy Biggs, an Arizona Republican and former leader of the Freedom Caucus. "To do that, members must be able to hold their own leadership accountable."

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    When Democrats took control of the House in 2018, Speaker Nancy Pelosi changed the chamber's rules to specify that only a party leader could offer a motion to vacate.

    "The House can't function if anyone can take the entire chamber hostage at any point over a petty disagreement with the speaker," said a senior House Republican aide said at the time.

    Biggs, who served as the president of Arizona State Senate before running for Congress, disagrees.

    "The House Freedom Caucus has long called for this change – along with other changes to return power back to the body – and any true leader should be willing to subject themselves to that accountability," he said.
     
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  12. justtxyank

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    Big vote dump in CO sees Boebert move to 1200+ up. Call should happen soon.
     
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    I jinxed it, fuuuuuuuck.
     
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  14. Major

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    If McCarthy does become speaker, does he last longer than Liz Truss?
     
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    Lettuce > Truss > Putin
     
  16. justtxyank

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    Did trump steal Florida back for Desantis? In latest statement he says he sent the fbi to stop vote counting when Desantis and Scott were losing as the votes were being tallied.
     
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    yes

    well, it could be a fake statement
     
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    Seems like there are about 9-10K ballots left to drop/count, no?
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Haven’t see a number anywhere close to that.
     
  20. justtxyank

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    he’s now put the statement out on two mediums and says specifically he said the fbi into broward county to stop them from counting
     

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