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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

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  1. Reeko

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    Andrew Yang clearly wants attention…this has-been is quickly approaching grifter territory
     
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    From the BBC:

    Katty Kay: Will an FBI 'raid' supercharge Trump?

    The torrent of outrage from Donald Trump's supporters on Tuesday has been predictable. Of course they were going to vent their fury after FBI agents searched the former president's home.

    It plays straight into the narrative Mr Trump himself perpetuates that he is a victim of a corrupt establishment. As he likes to say at his rallies, no political leader has ever been treated as badly as he has. In fact, the FBI search Mr Trump has called a "raid" is helping to solidify his campaign of grievances against the state.

    Listening to the gist of what his supporters are saying, there is a specific point about government overreach in persecuting Mr Trump.

    Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican senator and Trump critic-turned-acolyte, compared the FBI's actions to "something we have seen many times from third world Marxist dictatorships".

    Kristi Noem, the South Dakota governor who has only ever been a staunch Trump fan, called it the political weaponisation of the FBI, which she said had "been after President Trump as a candidate, as president, and now as a former president".

    There is a mobilising effect to this theme. Again, as Mr Trump often says, if he is being persecuted, his supporters, by extension, are also under threat. He is their guy. It's a sentiment I've heard repeatedly from Trump voters: "In going after him, they are going after us."

    Which gets us to the interesting question of how this FBI search changes the American political landscape.

    First, it will no doubt galvanise Trump voters to turn out in November's midterm elections. Pro-Trump Republicans are already using it as a way to raise campaign funds for Trump-endorsed candidates.

    They clearly see the operation as a money spinner. It also forces Republicans who have previously voiced differences with the former president to rally around him.

    Even Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor who is seen as the main contender for the Republican nomination if the former president doesn't run in 2024, quickly came out to publicly defend Mr Trump after the search, also calling the search a "weaponisation of federal agencies".

    All this could prompt Mr Trump, encouraged by the instant outpouring of pro-Trump fervour, to seize the moment and announce that he'll make a tilt for the White House again.

    Around the country millions of his fans are waiting for him to do just that. An early announcement might disappoint some Republican strategists, who fear it casts the former president, who is still a very divisive figure, as a central player in the critical midterm elections. They would prefer that the midterms focus almost exclusively on inflation and the poor state of the US economy.

    For Democrats meanwhile, the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago holds its own political peril. Not only does it motivate the Republican base, it takes attention away from the Democrats' achievements in Congress this week, passing a sweeping economic package that addresses everything from health care to climate change.

    For Democrats in tight races, "the spending bill is a series of victory laps," said Democratic strategist Mary Anne Marsh. "But the first lap has now been truncated. Democrats wanted this week's political talk shows to be all about the climate change and spending bill that the Senate passed this weekend, instead they were all, once again, about Donald Trump."

    These people are incompetent on top of all of the rest of their many notable faults. They are spectacular F__-ups.
     
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    Would that red states country even last 6 months?
     
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    Caimpaign fundraising?

    LOL

    Do you mean the grift that is going into his pocket? He does not need to fund-raise for a campaign, he has an entire network ready to campaign for him.

    I bet you think he is using the donations for his "legal fund" to fight voting irregularities, right?
     
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    A little more on Jay Bratt, who is in charge of the DOJ’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section and who personally visited MAL in June:

    His section is part of DOJ's National Security Division.

    Here's the blurb from the DOJ website:
    There's a lot there and if you squint you can see all kinds of possibilities for criming that Trump may have done that would catch this group's attention. That the head of the section went to MAL instead of a regular agent or two is telling.
     
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    the mayo militia is always threatening Civil War down in mom’s basement

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    WOW! So Yang is just an attention w**** like most politicians.

    Remember when he was Neo like?

    SMDH.
     
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    Why don’t the “let’s wait to see all the facts” people want to wait to see all the facts?

    @MojoMan
     
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    There is a lot of information on it with just a google search of “Dershowitz sex”.
    He was very good friends with Epstein. According to the women that were teenagers that were with Epstein, Dershowitz would go into the massage room and get serviced too. The secretary that worked for Epstein also circumstantially corroborated it saying that young girls would come to give Epstein massages and every time like ten minutes into the massage Dershowitz would show up and the three of them would be alone locked in the office.

    Another interesting tidbit is that Dershowitz wrote an impassioned piece on how the age of consent and statutory rape needed to be lowered and he has championed laws to lower the age.

    It has avoided mainstream media for the most part because Dershowitz immediately threatens to sue so now you just see a lot of the main stream media avoid him.

    He has gone from being a very liberal “brilliant” scholar for the left and is now one more for the right, largely because that is where he gets attention in the media.

    He also was helping Epstein in his negotiations in Florida to avoid long jail terms for screwing 14-16 year old girl. They worked out an incredible deal with Dershowitz’ help to avoid long jail time until it was questioned higher up the ladder.

    It really isn’t even a “left” or “right” issue. Epstein and Dershowitz and other figures involved don’t care about politics at a personal level… it was about sex, power, networking and money and the actors were all over the map.

    Dershowitz is VERY mixed up in it, but to some degree so is Bill Clinton and Donald Trump and Bill Gates.
     
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    Because we went through this with the Russian collusion hoax, not to mention quite a few other similar episodes. The FBI is no longer a trustworthy defender of justice. They are a partisan weaponized branch of government that is now very openly moving to take out the Democrat party's political adversaries. Go ahead and lie through your teeth and deny it. That is who you are and what you do. You are no more trustworthy or believable than the FBI or the DOJ is.

    Zero. That is the amount of trust and deference and respect that you people deserve and that is what you are now getting. None. You constant, aggressive, unconscionable liars. And that certainly includes the DOJ, FBI, IRS, CDC, and also the people currently occupying the white house.

    These people no longer receive the benefit of the doubt, because they have abused their position of power and authority too egregiously and too many times. They are liars and gestapo style thugs, as they have demonstrated yet again for all to see with this performance.
     
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    I love how all these disgraced former Democrat politicians are bitter and now Trump supporters after being abandoned by their party for breaking the law or violating ethics.

    Cuomo is speaking up and I am sure Illinois Governor Blago will come out too.

    The only one I know that hasn’t flipped if Al Franken who feels he shouldn’t have resigned but hasn’t let that impact who he supports.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Do you consider Trump one of these types of people?
     
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    LOL “These people no longer receive the benefit of the doubt!”

    Poster supports Donald J Trump, Rudy Guilianni, Alex Jones and Q.
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    Not from a Russian prison if they trade him for Griner....
     
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    Notice how people who were criticizing Andrew Cuomo before and celebrating his downfall are now citing him for credibility.

    Ive just skimmed through the last few pages and it’s a lot of bang the table while throw out everything to try to defend Trump. Try to claim the judge is tainted because of connections to Epstein yet also cite Dershowitz who defended and is very tied up with Epstein to argue against the raid.

    What I’m seeing is very little actual addressing of the fact that Trump did take material in violation of the law and there is corroborated evidence that he has destroyed records.
     
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    You’re in cult. Please seek help.
     
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    Trump's brown shirt Patriots.
     
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