Give Tilman some time and he will get some votes, his teams have been competitive so far and he is relatively new.... plus a couple of the names on that list are REALLY bad.
Yes Tillman went on television admitting he pushed Morey to get Westbrook. Why did Tillman do this then? It's because Harden would threaten the Rockets with asking for a trade which he does annually. Harden, Morey, Tillman, Dantoni and Alexander are all responsible for the team's culture and roster. The point is Harden really has no right to complain since that is what he wanted. Rockets fans know this even before Tim Macmahon's article even came out. Harden is finally leaving because the new GM realizes and is ensuring that a culture change is mandatory moving forward.
#1 Tilman pushed through the Westbrook for the very reason he said he did on television, because he wanted Westbrook. The deal wasn't made because Daryl Morey or MDA or even Harden wanted it. The deal was made because the owner said to make the deal. #2 Harden never asked for Westbrook to be traded. #3 It was the owner that alienated and ran off the GM, the HC and Westbrook..... the people that Harden was the closest to in the organization. #4 Harden is leaving because Harden has asked for a trade. #5 The new GM was working with Daryl and collaborating with him on all the major decisions by his own admission at the press conference. Stone was deeply embedded in the culture of the Rockets and partially responsible. #6 This culture crap was leaked by the Rockets in an effort to prepare the fan base for a great player leaving, but it has backfired on them because the very stores that they leaked, full of half truths have only HURT the Rockets negotiating position....... utter incompetence.
No, Tilman did it because he was looking for that extra 5%. It's his own business model that he promotes ad nauseum.
The insane thing is that Morey had a plan to bring in BOTH Robert Covington AND Christian Wood at same trade deadline. Stone's acquisition of Christian Wood in offseason had already been prepared by Morey as contingency for not getting him last season. As such, Stone hasn't really done anything he can claim as 100% his own unless you count Tate and the young guys.
You are a special kind of challenged aren't you? Did you even read Ben Dubose's article that is linked in the tweet provided????? It could not be more clear that Tilman FORCED/OVERRODE (you can choose any synonym you want) his basketball ops team's (which Morey heads) judgement and personally pushed this trade through. Seriously, you act like you've been asleep this past year and a half. This news is hardly new. Tilman has gone on TV programs, nationally and locally, and repeated this same story a multitude of times. Tilman delighted in taking credit for the Russ trade. Now he has MacMahon spinning the story to place blame on Harden.
Those other owners have owned their teams a lot longer. Give Tillman a few years and he will be near the top of the list.
1 - Tilman absolutely has to own the WB trade. I think the cheapness point with Tilman relative to the average NBA owner (and especially Les) up to this point is overblown but overruling his basketball folks on the Russ trade is bad and goes on his record. But it also seems really unlikely that trade happens without James pushing for it. 2 - If Russ wanted out in part over James' lack of professionalism isn't that still a problem even if James wasn't the one who pushed for it? 3 - Morey and Tilman were never going to be the same after Morey cost him a crapload of money with HK. The way the situation with MDA's extension was handled was unprofessional, but he needed to go after this past season. How is Russ wanting to leave on Tilman? 4 - Yes. 5 - Eh. He was part of it, but Morey was his direct boss. If you said Tilman has to own the cater to James culture as well, that's accurate. But I think the point made that most stars could do this stuff but it's better if they don't is probably the best way to look at it. 6 - There were a lot of quotes in there from people no longer in the organization.
A quote from a Kelly Iko or the actual words out of the owners mouth on television before the trade soured? I will take the actual words of the owner on television.... which is also consistent with the comments of Daryl Morey after the trade was made..... Tilman loves revisionist history
Morey also shared the interesting detail that Harden initially wanted to know if the Rockets could get the deal done to add Westbrook without having to give up Chris Paul in return; something that was ultimately impossible. Props to him for trying, though. "His mind is always [going] first to 'How [can we be] completely stacked?'" Morey said of Harden. "When I let him know it probably wasn't going to happen, he was good. He understood. He said, 'Hey, if there's a way to make it happen, let's do it,' but he understands that you can't just snap your fingers and make things happen in the NBA. No one is out there trying to help us. It's always a dynamic when you're trying to get the deal done."
2. Westbrook did not like Tillman, that is fact. Westbrook tweeted out himself that Harden is not why he's asking out. In fact many people believe he asked out because of Harden wanted to leave first. But who knows why, and trading Westbrook for low was not a good move by Stone. 3. They werent the same before that either. As SOON as he got here, he hamstrung Morey, look at all the deals he made in the 2018-2019 season. 5. Every Superstar is treated this way. Russ had this stuff like this in OKC. Russ might be a better leader but he also had all the perks. And Ive not heard former teammates complain about James Harden since they have left. Do you see Beverly, Lou or Harrel complaining about James Harden? 6. Its very interesting to me that all these "former" Rockets staffers have something to say now. It was one staffer and one assistant coach. Among other "sources" Do you also believe Tim when he says Morey quit on the Rockets.
