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Iran Protests

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tallanvor, Dec 29, 2017.

  1. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    It's easy and the typical thing to said you support the people right to protest.

    It's a lot harder to get Iran to drop their nuke program.

    It's easy to scrap that deal and yell about the effects, like someone keeps on doing about NK.

    Loud mouth with little understanding is so typical.
     
  2. tallanvor

    tallanvor Contributing Member

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    Obama wouldn't support the protests.

    They didn't. read the sunset clauses.

    If you forcefully take my money and give it to terrorists who blow up children, Im going to yell. Everyone is.

    Again, there is a reason the Obama administration is begging everyone to keep quiet about these protests. There is a reason they tried to hide the details of the Iran detail. They even know the deal was **** and that these protests undermine all the work they tried to do to be buddy buddy with this terrorist regime. It should give you pause that you are trying to defend something even the Obama administration felt they couldn't defend (thus the secrecy of the deal).
     
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  3. tallanvor

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    Reuters bringing the anti-antisemitism. Its the sneaky conniving Jews behind these protests.

     
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    Disgusting move by whoever did this at ReutersTV.
     
  5. Commodore

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    the NYTimes with disgraceful propaganda in service of tyranny

     
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    Have you looked in the mirror lately?
     
  7. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Yea he did.

    They dropped the nuke enrichment and that have been verified.

    There you go with consipracy theories again. Lol. There are reasons, whether you agree with them or not, for not being twitter triggered. Going conspiracy route shows how willful you are to be blind and deluded.
     
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  8. tallanvor

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    false. most these pollicies fall off after 5-10 years and they get to continue nuclear devleopment. This is a legal path for Iran to get a nuke, something they have been wanting for decades. Its not a conspiracy theory. read the damn deal.

    Obama gave these terrorists the following:

    - A legal path to getting a nuke
    - $1.7 billion in us tax payer dollars
    - $100 billion in money blocked by sanctions
    - an end to investigating Hezbollah's drug trafficking

    Hell the treaty does absolutely nothing to Iran's intercontinental ballistic missile program which are built for the purpose of launching nuclear warhaeds (specifically at us). Wonder why they are still building them?

    Again you are trying to defend something even Obama does not want to defend. Its horrible.

    Also stop using the word 'verified'. You have no idea what Iran has chosen not to disclose.
     
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  9. Deckard

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    Just out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about the "Sunset clauses" that will end the middle class "tax cuts" after a period of time? "Sunset clauses" that do not apply to the huge corporate tax cuts that also benefit the wealthiest Americans?

    President Obama, as a lot of people probably know, has a deep knowledge of history. He's aware that the US had the democratically elected government of Iran, a government that leaned left, overthrown during the political paranoia of the 1950's (McCarthy, etc.), with the involvement of the CIA. This led to the "Shah" imposing a bizarre "royal" dictatorship that lasted for years. I think Obama wanted to insure the world that we weren't doing that sort of thing any longer, true or not. Who knows how Iran might have evolved had we not poked our nose into their business?
     
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  10. Commodore

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    With all due respect, that's a lie. You are a liar, dude, in case I didn't make myself clear. The "tweet" you posted does nothing to support the Iranian regime. You are simply taking a shot at the New York Times because you felt like it, for reasons of your own. Tell me what was dishonest or supportive of the regime in that tweet. Please. I'd like to know.

    Did you actually read the article that is linked in the tweet? The Times is doing something you may not be familiar with. It's called reporting the news. It isn't a propaganda instrument of extremists, like "Breitbart News." It is a newspaper, busy doing what newspapers traditionally do. Wake up and smell the coffee, Commodore.
     
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    As an Iranian who is about as progressive as it gets politically and disagrees with posters like commodore and bobbythegreat, it’s sad to see just how right they are on this topic and how wrong the corporate democrats and mainstream media outlets are.
     
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  13. Cohete Rojo

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    They used stronger language to condemn Trump when they reported on the Trump protests at the beginning of 2017.
     
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    I would had believed him if he was talking about Erdugan, however ,I don't see him wanting to see any other regime change in the region.
    He's helping his partners in Iran to stain the opposition of being just an Israeli agents


    The sole purpose of the Islamic State of Iran is to make everyone else looks decent in comparison..

    If Iran on its way of becoming a semi Democratic decent State , then this will be a game changer, a bad news for Israel since this means a massive geopolitical shift against it just by the elimination of distractions, and it's also a threat/headache to Arab monarchical who's only agenda is to counterpart Iran, since they will be required to implment reforms or face regime change momentum, on the other hand, Lebanon, Syria,Iraq, Yemen and Afghanistan will be far better off though
     
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    Wow, look at how offended you get when someone dares to criticize your boyfriend. LOL.
     
  16. Amiga

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    I saw this what-are-you-now-outrage about toward the NYT concerning the Iran protest. So no surprise that Commodore repeat it here. .
     
  17. Amiga

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    Funny. So, they did or did not give up nuke enrichment? Yea, you won't answer. You are talking about the future, which isn't known yet. How about this, all middle east countries will have nuke in 20 years. You think we just sit ideal and watch?

    It's a conspiracy theory to think Obama's people want everyone to be quiet about the protest because of some BS theory.

    And now you pivot to missile. I'm not going to waste my time.

    I'm not defending anything. Just correcting bs.
     
  18. tallanvor

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    they didn't. they accepted a deal/path to legally enrich uranium. Not sure how I could of been more clear.

    Ben Rhodes, John Kerry, and Susan Rice have all told everyone to shut up. Its not a conspiracy theory.

    yea because what could ICBMs have to do with building nukes right?
     
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  19. durvasa

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    Reporting the news in a neutral manner is now “propaganda”.
     
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    Obama officials are not telling “everyone” to shut up. That’s nonsense.

    They are telling TRUMP to shut up because it undermines the protests when Trump and GOP’ers like Lindsay Graham inject the Iranian Deal into the situation.

    As a foreign policy tactic it is incredibly stupid to pit this as Trump vs Iran because the regimen’s positions will just harden. The more this is viewed as organic, the more the regime will feel pressure to make changes.

    It’s not the only reason, but a big reason why the working class is protesting is because the sanctions being lifted through the Iranian Deal were supposed to get dispersed into workforce programs and the government has stalled due to Trump injecting the narrative that he will pull the deal. So the working class in Iran have few reasons to think Trump is on their side and likely don’t want his support.

    He needs to stay out of it so the regime feels the pressure not from Trumps bully techniques, but from their own people rising up to push for a government that works for the people not for their own interests and the interests of playing tit for tat with authoritarian bigots like Donald Trump.
     
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