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Astros to pursue Edwin Encarnacion

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rocketpower2, Nov 9, 2016.

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  1. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I knew it. You knew it. What is your point. Reddick is nearly useless to us if they bring in a Lefty late so the OPS goes out the window in area where we need it most.
     
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    There are plenty of players that have significant batting splits and are productive players. The circumstance you're describing is uncommon enough as to not spent much time worrying about it. He's had these splits for his entire career and he's generally been an average to above average player in spite of his known flaws. Ergo they're not crippling to him or his team.
     
  3. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Not that uncommon. High leverage situations happen almost nightly. As an Athleltic, Reddick demanded publicly that he bat against lefties late and that's ultimately one of the reasons he left. He put himself before Billy Beane's analytics and the team and it didn't go over well. These type of situations are costing us 10 games a year.
     
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    If you want to say the Astros are losing 10 games a year due to clutchness, that's a questionable premise already. But to attribute that all to one player based on handedness, not reasonable. There will be times when it happens but likely at a rate not significantly different than any other team.

    The Astros have one guy who has significant batting splits, big deal. Lots of guys on lots of teams have batting splits.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Yeah, you're gonna have to show your work on this one.
     
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    Yep.

    Making statements like Phi Slamma does without backing it up is irresponsible.

    If it's just his opinion then he should state that.

    Bottom line for me is the lineup should be much better next year. To say otherwise is just being disingenuous. Or either lack of knowledge/hater.
     
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    I was curious -- looks like there are some legs to this one.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/as-of-josh-reddick-voices-frustration-about-sitting-vs-lefties/

    Overall though -- winning fixes everything, and I'd guess that you wouldn't hear those types of things if we're winning.
     
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    I really wonder what the asking price on encarnacion is right now
     
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    teams will wait for a while before they sign him he wants a 5-6 year deal worth about 15-20 million a season most teams only want to sign him for about two years at 10-15 million a season they believe he is declining as a player
     
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    Teams would have no problem with somewhere between 15-20 million per year for two years. After two years, teams are going to want a significant discount on average salary.
     
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    If the A's are considering it, I'd guess it would only be with a very limited no-trade clause. They'd almost certainly be considering flipping him.
     
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    Man, if they get him on a short deal, that would sorta suck. They had luck doing that with Napoli and Desmond recently (not to mention Beltran and Lucroy). :mad:
     
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    EE to the Rangers just makes too much sense. They have an extra draft pick after losing Desmond. Surprised it hasn't happened already.
     
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    Astros should still sign him. We need our own superteam in Houston.
     
  18. Fulgore

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    Is it too late?
     
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    I mean, at this point, I'm not sure I understand what EE and his camp are waiting for? By now, wouldn't they have all the offers sitting on the table in front of them?? Do we even know what he's in line to get?
     
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    May be waiting for a team with a sack of money left over at the end of free agency. Obviously the offers aren't THAT good.
     
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