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Yordan Alvarez's potential?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rockbox, Jul 7, 2019.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    Nice thing about him is you can pretty much cross off half the teams in MLB as a potential destination...unless they change the DH rule.
     
  2. HatsForBats

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    That's now 2 home runs that I have never seen anyone else place a ball at. CF train tracks and then upper deck of RF foul pole. Glad to see both in person.
     
  3. Fulgore

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    Didn’t Berkman hit a ball up there before?
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Projected out to 162 we're talking 52 HR and 164 RBI. OK, people miss games. Gotta give a slightly more conservative number

    So per 650...48 HR and 152 RBI. That's officially the standard big fella. If it's too high that's your own damn fault. Frankly 70 and 200 should be expected with the experience under his belt, but I'm a reasonable man.
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Nope, unless it was in BP.

    Kinda disappointed that Yordan pulled that one too much to break the video screen again.
     
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  6. The Real Shady

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    HR reminded me of the Canseco bomb back in the day. No way Yordan's was only 415 feet.

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    That swing on his second home run was beautiful. I know he has a sweet swing, but that one in particular was beautiful
     
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    During the broadcast, they mentioned the only other person to hit it there was Jeromy Burnitz, in 2000.
     
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    Did anyone ever give an estimated distance on the 2nd homerun last night. If that was 413 feet then Yao Ming was only 6 feet 2 inches
     
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    It was initially projected at 416, but heard actual was 430 something. The distance of that second homer wasn't the impressive part...how high it landed in the stands was the impressive part. I'd guess Alvarez has hit some lasers that landed in a lower part of the stands that would have gone farther if the stands weren't there.
     
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    Would he get the MVP over Trout this season, had he hypothetically played all season and ended up with 50/145 315 average and 1.100 OPS? As a DH? I'm not so sure.
     
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    Yep. On replay-slo-mo, it appeared to barely clear the rafters :eek:
     
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    No. Only way a DH gets mvp is by hitting 70+ HR.
     
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  14. Nook

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    That is what I think as well.

    Maybe in a season where there is a lack of good candidates for MVP someone can sneak in, but in the current environment it isn't happening.
     
  15. bigdaddy

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    I’ll take him just the way he is, offensive production is what it is. The lineup is scary when he is producing, I believe he should be batting 3rd or 4th all the time and he probably will next year. Hinch just doesn’t want to be disrespectful to the ones in front of now. They will all slump at times but I believe he is similar to Brantley with his contact ability with more power. Nook called it when he was in the minors about his potential and that he was the better hitter than Tucker. There’s a long way to go in both their careers but Álvarez appears to be superior.
     
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    Brantley: 61 strikeouts, 526 at-bats
    Yordan: 77 strikeouts, 263 at-bats

    Gurriel, Bregman, and Altuve are also far superior at contact ability, and Springer is mildly better. I think it's doubtful Alvarez cracks the top 4 in the the lineup when all are healthy.
     
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    You make a solid point, but he walks a lot though. 41 walks in those at bats to only 47 for Brantley. His on base percentage is second only to Bregman at the moment and he leads the team in slugging by a wide margin. His OPS is the best on the team. Not to mention he has 72 RBIs in 71 games. Why would you move a guy producing numbers like that? It's unprecedented.
     
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  18. vince

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    I think Yordan hitting where he is hitting is perfectly fine.

    He has feasted on pitchers just fine, and he has the RBI’s to back it up; just like the Bregman, Brantley, and Gurriel.

    Now with Tucker starting to hit his stride, and whom I think is going to have an awesome campaign next year, and will likely be hitting #7 or # 8....

    Shoot with Correa, Springer, Altuve, Brantley, Alvarez, Bregman, Gurriel, and Tucker!!! Yikes...

    Only bummer is that Garret Cole is probably going somewhere else for like the richest pitching contract in the history of the MLB.
     
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    Using @sealclubber1016's 650 PA projections, Alvarez would wind up with ~6.9-7.0 bWAR; Trout is already at 8.1 with 600 PAs. He'll end up near 9 (~8.8).

    Hell, he'd STILL trail Bregman (7.4 right now) and Verlander (7.0 right now).
     
  20. bigdaddy

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    Gurriel benefits hitting after Alvarez I never said he was superior to the ones you mentioned that he was superior to the top 4, I said his ability is superior to Tucker. It’ll be a hard sell because of your points. I think he deserves to be in the conversation for 3 or 4 in the lineup, his production is off the charts.
     

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