[Yahoo Sports]Exclusive: Federal documents detail sweeping potential NCAA violations

why not? well for starters answer these issues below

Which athletes get paid? does the last guy on the bench or someone who doesnt get play at all get paid the same amount as the best players. If the basketball team gets paid, why not the tennis team or the volleyball team? They're athletes too, right? What about the golf players? They're all there on athletic scholarship. How about the chess team, as well? And who could forget about the rowing team? And female athletes?

What level or division does it end? Most "pay college athletes" groups favor paying Division one athletes. Why not pay division two and three athletes?
How about community college athletes? You can't pay some, but not all... that would be hypocritical. All of those groups generate revenue.

Recruiting won't exist If college football (legally) paid their athletes it wouldn't last. The recruiting process would be no more. It would result in one dominant conference for each sport and about two handfuls of dominant teams. The smaller schools in smaller markets would not be able to compete with the big universities resulting in loss of programs for many schools.

They already get paid essentially. Major colleges provide the best services to their "student athletes." As athletes, they are not held to the same standard as other students. The biggest universities give the athletes the best gyms to workout in, free health insurance for injuries, transportation, food, equipment and most importantly free tuition. That in itself is a payment for three to four years. Would college athletes rather not be provided with such great services and be paid a salary? I highly doubt.

theres tons other issues on why they shouldn't. like i said its not that simple

 

If a university can pay a "fair" wage to students to monitor a library, conduct research, or do data entry - even when they have a scholarship - they can pay a fair wage to athletes.

 

this doesnt answer anything i posted nor is it as simple as your post. far from it

 

Everybody is getting paid one way or another

 

It is as simple as he posted. Compensating people with wages for their labor probably even predates the emergence of modern Homo Sapiens

 

yeah please send a memo to the NCAA with the simplistic solution

 

Sure:

Dear NCAA - disband, the scam is over, **** the hell off.

I love how people think something is really hard when it's the opposite of hard.

Getting people to do things for money is not hard. If Arizona wants to pay some guy 100,000 a year to play basketball, it can and will do so. In fact, it just did.

Setting up and maintaining a system that defrauds people out of doing things for money (the current NCAA) and then siphons that money to others is much harder and much more tenuous.

 

i love how people can think its simple when its not. what i posted above is barely even the tip of the issues. feel free to answer those topics

 

There are very simple answers to all of your questions. I am hardly a free market fundamentalist, but it's pretty damn simple

Which athletes get paid?

ANSWER - the ones that people are willing to pay

does the last guy on the bench or someone who doesnt get play at all get paid the same amount as the best players.

ANSWER - who cares? if somebody is willing to pay him, pay him.

If the basketball team gets paid, why not the tennis team or the volleyball team? They're athletes too, right? What about the golf players? They're all there on athletic scholarship. How about the chess team, as well? And who could forget about the rowing team? And female athletes?

ANSWER - sure either pay them, or don't pay them. If somebody is willing to pay them, pay them.

What level or division does it end? Most "pay college athletes" groups favor paying Division one athletes. Why not pay division two and three athletes?

ANSWER - why not? If people are willing to pay them, pay them.


How about community college athletes? You can't pay some, but not all... that would be hypocritical. All of those groups generate revenue.

ANSWER - sure, of course you can. This is America. You can pay somebody to clean your house. You can clean it yourself. You can try to get your kids to do it. None of this is remotely unsolvable or a problem that isn't solved millions of times over in every single other labor market in existence. If somebody is willing to pay them, pay them. People are willing to pay for minor league baseball - hence minor league baseball palyers are paid. See? It's not that hard. The concept of paying people for sports already exists. The concept of paying people for college jobs already exists. The concept of paying people for college sports already exists.

The concept of a massive army of vampire leeches that sits on top of it all also already exists, sadly, and that is the only reason why we're even posting about this.

 

Yes, we live under a free market. That was known when he posted his questions and just saying the market will pay what the market will allow is really not addressing any of his issues listed at all.

 

First, you're wrong. The NCAA lives under the opposite of a free market and has its express purpose of preventing one from existing. This is why wages are fixed at 0.

Second, the question literally answers itself.

How will we distribute the goods from a given market? Answer: because it's a market, that's the whole point, to distribute goods between buyers and sellers.

 

Well, no, according to you the market will pay what it can pay. That is a free market. Again, you don’t alleviate any concerns with what you say.

 

whats interesting is these are your own personal thoughts and doesn't address anything logically. you're saying who cares in response, when the people that actually would care are the players

 

What is not logical about paying the players for playing sports? This website wouldn't exist without it. What isn't logical is keeping up the "student-athlete" sham in order to rob them.

Concern about what? Some random internet clown who lists a bunch of mundane scenarios that already exist in life as existential threats based on random assumptions liek "you have to pay community college students or else you're a hypocrite!" that have no grounding in reality?

That is not a concern that is within my power to address, friend.

 

so scholarship money doesn't count as a form of payment to you, amongst other benefits the university gives their athletes

Would college athletes rather not be provided with such great services and be paid a salary? your answer is probably just pay them

 

What? Dude, first of all calm down. Second, try to make sense so that we can actually have a debate.

 

Sure, scholarship can be payment. So can money. As long as athletes are exercising their bargaining power to exact consideration - unlike now - who cares?

I don't care what form of payment players choose to accept. The NCAA does which is why it seeks to fix their monetary wage at 0, so that it can take the money they earn for itself.

 

Not every school is raking in the cash. There is a reason the top players always end up at the same 15 schools. That doesn't mean the guys at the other schools won't end up being good players, but its the top 50 that we see all over this story. The blue bloods have been cheating for years while the NCAA looked the other way and it would continue to do so if the FBI hadn't gotten involved.

 

Curious to see how the NCAA responds if the G-League provides a way for top high school ballers to bypass college. Will it force the NCAA to eventually change policies and start paying athletes as well?

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