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Will the Trump-sponsored Child Abuse Policy Be Another Gift to the Opposition ?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jun 18, 2018.

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Will the Trump-sponsored Child Abuse Policy Be a Gift to the Opposition ?

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  1. adoo

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    Will the Trump-sponsored Child Abuse Policy unify, more than ever, his opposition?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Ultimately, no, but you can tell it's what they are hoping for now that the "blue wave" seems to be falling apart. They are all hands on deck pushing this narrative, and the emotional message will resonate with some so long as they don't ask any questions or look into what is going on at all. If they are even slightly educated as to the issue, it'll have no effect whatsoever.
     
  3. adoo

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    Republican Sen. Ben Sasse on Monday accused the Trump administration of using the separation of illegal immigrant families as leverage in immigration talks with Democrats.

    “There are many senior folks in the administration who hate this policy, and who want to do something better,” the Nebraska Republican wrote on Facebook. “But some in the administration have decided that this cruel policy increases their legislative leverage. This is wrong. Americans do not take children hostage, period.”

    “Anyone saying that their hands are tied or that the only conceivable way to fix the problem of catch-and-release is to rip families apart is flat wrong. There are other options available to them," wrote Sasse, " there are ways to address this that are less bad than the policy of family separation they’ve chosen.”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...op-using-border-family-separation-as-leverage



     
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  4. Aceshigh7

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    No. If anything it will be a boon because it's nice to see our immigration laws enforced for once. What kind of nation allows anyone to invade their country with no repercussions as long as they have a child with them? "Oh, we're going to release you and your child into the country in which you have no home and no right to be in. So long as you promise to come back to court in a few months."

    That's insane and it's essentially open borders.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    It's bad policy from a practical standpoint (doesn't help the immigration situation), from a moral standpoint (large amounts of human suffering), and from an optical/political standpoint.

    If I'm concerned about keeping R seats this November, I'm trying to stop this ASAP.
     
  6. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost not wrong
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    This is basically how sociopaths operate.

    "LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!"
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    You are clearly overly emotional, it's too bad you don't spend more time thinking instead of just feeling. Just a little bit of logical thought would completely change your opinion on this assuming you aren't just parroting the political narratives of your tribe.
     
  8. Astrodome

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    I honestly dont know the answer to this...
    What happened when someone immigrated unlawfully with children and got caught before this policy?
     
  9. Aceshigh7

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    Generally, they were released into this country with a promise to appear at a later court date. Very few bothered to turn up for their court dates. So basically, it was a free pass. Open borders. Come on in.

    Migrants and traffickers observed this and that is why we began to see the significant increases in children being brought over.
     
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    A Republican Governor Actively Dis-associating From The Trump-sponsored Child Abuse Policy

    Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker has balked at sending National Guard troops to the US border in the wake of the Trump administration’s “inhumane treatment” of children.

    He said Monday that “we told the National Guard to hold steady and to not go down to the border — period,” “We won’t be supporting that initiative unless they change the policy.”

    He pulled back troops because “the federal government’s current actions are resulting in the inhumane treatment of children,” said Lizzy Guyton, the governor’s communications director, in a statement.


    https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17475...publican-governor-massachusetts-charlie-baker
     
  11. Astrodome

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    It looks like the trump admin will be the one that fixes this law and that will be a good thing. It has been a long time coming.
     
  12. adoo

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    there is NO law that calls for child separation.

    It is a lie spinned by the American Nazi, Stephen Miller, and parroted by Trump and his lackeys
     
  13. Astrodome

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    So I am guessing you are ok with locking them up as long as they are not separated? Or just let them go ahead and roam around?
     
  14. adoo

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    in a roundabout way, you’ve conceded that

    There is NO LAW that calls for child separation​
     
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    It depends on how long the policy lasts. If it continues then yes, it probably will. If it stops now, I don't know how long people's memories will be, especially since there will be 8 new outrages every single week.

    This outrage outshines all of the other things the Trump administration does, so if it lasts then will hurt them at the polls.
     
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    #16 adoo, Jun 19, 2018
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    It might incrementally drive turnout for liberals who are eager to punish Republicans. It might also somewhat depress turnout for Republicans who are feeling not too enthusiastic about giving this policy their implicit endorsement. For the right markets, I'm sure the Democratic candidates will be doing a lot of "Stop Trump!" ads with a picture of a crying toddler. For Republican candidates, I think it'll be dicier to run on a platform that they want to support Trump in protecting our border from immigrants because they leave their flank open to criticism about the treatment of the children. Trump doesn't want to appear weak, but he really screwed the pooch on this one from an electoral perspective, imo.
     
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    We thinks it'll work wonders towards locking HRC up
     
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    CNN and other outlets have to ****ING TOTALLY STOP with this kind of silly "objectivity" like they're covering a horse race.

    it's not just "a turn off" among suburbanites - it's an affront to human dignity and a crime against humanity, cheered on only by white supremacists, their enablers, and various childless internet sociopath wannabes
     
  20. adoo

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    actually, they're prepping for the coverage for the political races in the mid-term elections

    i could not have said it any better
     
    #20 adoo, Jun 19, 2018
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