Trump considering executive order to add Census citizenship question

Democracy with no transparency is no democracy.

 

The real question is how shitty and biased is the Trump administration when a Republican appointment to the Supreme Court flat out says that the President’s administration is lying and not sufficient.

That should be incredibly embarrassing for the Trump administration and an eye opener for his supporters.

Instead it is just another day of ignorance in the Trump hemisphere.

 

Are you saying this ironically.

 

The world would be so much better if he were just not in it.

DD

 

There is precedence for presidents from both parties ignoring the SCOTUS to enact their own Executive Order. Not saying that I agree with it or not but its not as if Trump is making history.

 

He ain't tryin if he aint cheatin.

WHERE'S MUH TAX BREAK DONNY???

 

Trump should stop teasing and end our democracy by executive order via declaring himself king.

 

You guys don’t believe in over reacting just a little. CNN has been trying to convince people that Trump was going to end the democracy since the moment he was elected. Name one single right that any legal American citizen had before Trump that they don’t have now. Show me any evidence that Trump is going to end the democracy.

 

I doubt there are many posters here who watch CNN.

 

We cannot be afraid of data. We cannot backdown from the truth.

Truth is power, and we can handle the truth. #AddTheQuestion

 

I wonder what at the limits of an Executive Order
This is becoming a bit of a catch all

Rocket River

 

Well he talked about taking peoples guns away from them, but he didn't follow through.

Of course you had to add the qualifier of "American" Citizen" despite rights not only applying to American citizens. We can also talk about limiting the rights of the free press which the President has done in action and through deceit but not in law.

Remember the doctored footage of the CNN reporter who was removed from coverage by the white house which then doctored the speed of the video to try and make it look worse than it was.

So that is absolutely a right.

We can talk about his attempts to remove religious freedoms that was disallowed by the courts and ended up with Trump having to change and rewrite it.

We can talk about our right to vote which is being infringed on by lack of effort to secure our elections despite past efforts in multiple ways, including tampering with voter rolls.

We can also talk about possible violation of the rights of representative government when Trump tries to go around other co-equal branches of government because he can't get his way.

So it is reasonable to be more vigilant protecting our rights with Trump in office.

 

So lets talk about all of that stuff Then.

- He didn’t take away gun rights

- How has the video footage effected your rights or hurt democracy?

- He has done zero to limit religious freedom. Please explain.

- Show me one single way Trump has infringed on your right to vote.

- What has Trump done to go around other branches of government that hasn’t been done by other presidents?

 

He tried to ban Muslims from entering the country.

The doctored video was used as an excuse to ban reporter because they didn't like his stories and reporting. That is a violation of first amendment rights.

It isn't that Trump has I fringed on my right to vote but he is abdicating his duty to protect it. If nations that are adversaries of the United States tamper with states voter registration rolls and are successful in changing who can vote and which votes are counted, it lessens the legitimate votes.

We know the Russians hacked into state voter registration rolls already. Trump is not protecting us from that.

 

The ban was not against muslims, it was against seven Muslim-majority nations, they are Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen and Iraq. That executive order was executed in the name of national security and violated absolutely no ones rights. The SCOTUS considered it non-constitutional and the ban was dropped. Banning foreigners from entering this country is not a violation of your rights in any way.

The video did not violate anyone’s 1st amendment rights. Jim Acosta is a grandstander and was grandstanding when he refused to give up the microphone. He was kicked due to bad behavior not for any question he asked. Even if you think that is the case, the 1st amendment is alive and well and Jim Acosta was allowed back in.

What did Obama and Biden do to protect us from voter interference from the Russians? It happened on their watch not Trumps. Once again, you’ve lost nothing from Trump being president.

Trump has done nothing to infringe on any US Citizens rights since coming into office. If you don’t like his policies and how he communicates that’s fine but that is not evidence of any lost rights or an indicator that our democracy is dead or dying as a result of Trump.

 

I don't like Jim or CNN. What Trump did still violated the first amendment.

Obama imposed sanctions against Russia. Obama listened to the Intel briefings on Russia. Obama's administration even warned the Trump administration about members of his team. It still wasn't enough. Trump has done nothing. He's ignored the evidence and humiliated the Intel agencies that found it.

Trump himself claimed he would block Muslims. You are correct that he wasn't allowed to do it. But he doesn't get points for trying and failing to violate rights. That is only more reason to believe he is willing to violate our rights.

You're welcome to stick your head in the sand if you wish. But don't get bothered when others don't.

 

Did the legal team quit because they wouldn't lie anymore? Or did trump fire them because they wouldn't lie anymore?

 

And the idiot-in-chief continues to rant incoherently...



Doing the census on-line:



THE CHALLENGE OF AMERICA'S FIRST ONLINE CENSUS

https://www.wired.com/story/us-census-2020-goes-digital/

btw, you really can't have the census on-line only... too many people don't have access to computers, many others don't know how to use them, and a good number don't trust computers to do official government activities.

 

Not trying to assess points here. Simply stating that no US Citizen has lost a single right since Trump has been in office. Not one.

And you keep saying Muslims. It was never Muslims, it was anyone from very specific countries that consisted of mainly Muslims. If you happened to be a christian or Buddhist or Atheist and you were from one of those 7 countries you were banned from entering the US.

Muslims with passports from other countries were never banned. Muslims currently living in the US who were either citizens or visiting legally were never threatened.

You want to talk about who is actually threatening our constitutional rights? Look no further than your own party:
- seeks to take away 2nd amendment rights
- wants to severely (I do mean severely) limit your 1st amendment rights. Democrat Frederica Wilson openly stated that she wants to prosecute people that mock congressmen an congresswomen. That doesn’t even include the

And to think you guys were so upset claiming Trump was trying to violate 1st amendment rights when he kicked Jim Acosta for bad behavior. Lol.

 

The travel ban order he signed did not single out Muslims, however his actual words in December 2015 did single out Muslims....and, in usual Trump fashion, he backtracked