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Trump and swamp drainage

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  1. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

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    Gee, I wonder why republicans are now telling agencies to not comply with information requests (now that Trump/republicans are in power)?

    GOP chairman warns agencies about requests for records
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-chairman-warns-agencies-requests-records-064831360--politics.html
     
  2. edwardc

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    All this clown has done was refill the swamp with more snakes.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    This. If you were a lock her up voter then you should feel pretty stupid and used about now.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Why should they . . .their guy one . . . . . they all got participation trophies. . . . ..
    The ability to say . . . MY GUY WON!!!! Is much more important than any harm or good he does

    Also, as long as he don't help them OTHER PEOPLE . . . .
    "I don't mind him screwing me over just as long as the other people get screwed harder" - Trump Voters

    Rocket River
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    Kushner family in Beijing: 'Invest $500,000 and immigrate' to US
    http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/06/news/jared-kushner-nicole-family-event/index.html
     
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    "When the president does it, it isn't illegal." - Richard Nixon
     
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    Comrade putin and comrade castro are envious of such glorious move by republicans.
     
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    Yup.
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    The Kushner family investment controversy has reignited more questions about Trump's son-in-law's (and Trump's administration) ethics issues.

    Trump's PR guy Spicer said this in today's press conference:



    But as with most stuff from trump and his people, that is simply not true:

    This article details concerns about Kuhner's and his wife's ethical quagmire:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...rumps-ethics-quagmire/?utm_term=.ff1c155275ee

    This letter from an ethics organization discusses these and other ethics conflicts:

    http://www.democracy21.org/uncatego...er-to-recuse-himself-from-all-china-matters/#
     
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  11. Rashmon

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    Draining the swamp by displacing the water with alligators...

     
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  12. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Lieberman is said to be conflicted b/c of his commitment to the Star Wars franchise, where he has played three different characters, some in continuing roles.
     
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  13. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    getting more humid and swampy

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/...government-ethics-lobbyists.html?mcubz=0&_r=0




    • By ERIC LIPTONMAY 22, 2017

      Marilyn L. Glynn, who served as general counsel and acting director of the agency during the George W. Bush administration, called the move by the Trump White House “unprecedented and extremely troubling.”

      “It challenges the very authority of the director of the agency and his ability to carry out the functions of the office,” she said.

      In a statement issued Sunday evening, the Office of Management and Budget rejected the criticism and instead blamed Mr. Shaub, saying his call for the information, issued in late April, was motivated by politics. The office said it remained committed to upholding ethical standards in the federal government.

      “This request, in both its expansive scope and breathless timetable, demanded that we seek further legal guidance,” the statement said. “The very fact that this internal discussion was leaked implies that the data being sought is not being collected to satisfy our mutual high standard of ethics.”

      President Trump signed an executive order in late January — echoing language first endorsed by Mr. Obama — that prohibited lobbyists and lawyers hired as political appointees from working for two years on “particular” government matters that involved their former clients. In the case of former lobbyists, they could not work on the same regulatory issues they had been involved in.

      Both Mr. Trump and Mr. Obama reserved the right to issue waivers to this ban. Mr. Obama, unlike Mr. Trump, automatically made any such waivers public, offering detailed explanations. The exceptions were typically granted for people with special skills, or when the overlap between the new federal work and a prior job was minor.

      Ms. Glynn, who worked in the office of government ethics for nearly two decades, said she had never heard of a move by any previous White House to block a request like Mr. Shaub’s. She recalled how the Bush White House had intervened with a federal agency during her tenure to get information that she needed.

      Ethics watchdogs, as well as Democrats in Congress, have expressed concern at the number of former lobbyists taking high-ranking political jobs in the Trump administration. In many cases, they appear to be working on the exact topics they had previously handled on behalf of private-sector clients — including oil and gas companies and Wall Street banks — as recently as January.

      The White House, in an extremely unusual move, asked the Office of Government Ethics to hold off on its investigation into ethics waivers granted to ex-lobbyists and industry lawyers.

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      OPEN DOCUMENT

      Mr. Shaub, in an effort to find out just how widespread such waivers have become, asked every federal agency and the White House to give him a copy by June 1 of every waiver it had issued. He intends to make the documents public.

      Federal law gives the Office of Government Ethics, which was created in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, clear legal authority to issue such a “data request” to the ethics officers at federal agencies. This is the main power the office has to oversee compliance with federal ethics standards.

      It is less clear whether it has the power to demand such information from the White House. Historically, there has been some debate over whether the White House is a “federal agency” or, as it calls itself, the “executive office of the president.” Such an office might not be subject to oversight.

      The White House, however, tried on Wednesday to stop the process across the entire federal government, even before most agencies had responded to Mr. Shaub’s April 28 request.

      “This data call appears to raise legal questions regarding the scope of O.G.E.’s authorities,” said the letter, which was sent to Mr. Shaub by Mick Mulvaney, the head of the Office of Management and Budget. It continued, “I therefore request that you stay the data call until these questions are resolved.”

      The letter, which was obtained by The New York Times after a Freedom of Information request, created confusion among federal agency heads about whether they should honor the request from the ethics office.

      Norman Eisen, the top White House ethics lawyer in the first years of the Obama administration, said he believed that the Trump administration was trying to intimidate federal ethics officers, who are career appointees, without actually ordering them to ignore the directive from the ethics chief.

      “It is yet another demonstration of disrespect for the rule of law and for ethics and transparency coming from the White House,” Mr. Eisen said.

      Mr. Shaub, in a conference call with federal government ethics officers on Thursday, told them that he had the clear authority to make such a request and that they were still obligated under federal law to provide the requested information, according to a federal official who participated in the call.

      The Office of Government Ethics, however, does not have the power to take enforcement action directly against the agencies if they do not respond. Traditionally, if it has trouble getting the information it needs, it turns to the White House to get compliance, Ms. Glynn said.

      “The agency is more or less dependent on the good graces of the party that is in power,” she said.

      Tensions between Mr. Trump and Mr. Shaub first started to grow in late November, when the Office of Government Ethics sent out an unusual series of Twitter messages urging Mr. Trump to limit potential conflicts of interest by selling off his real estate assets. Mr. Shaub then gave a speech in January, after Mr. Trump announced that he would not take such a step, which was highly critical of the incoming president, provoking speculation that Mr. Shaub might be fired before his term ended.

      “One of the things that make America truly great is its system for preventing public corruption,” Mr. Shaub said during that speech. “Our executive branch ethics program is considered the gold standard internationally and has served as a model for the world. But that program starts with the office of the president. The president-elect must show those in government — and those coming into government after his inauguration — that ethics matters.”

      Continue reading the main story
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    The good news... Trump was going to track the $$$'s his hotels got from foreign sources to the U.S.Treasury. The bad news... they aren't keeping track of the $$$'s they get from foreign sources. They say its up to the foreigners to self declare, or Trump's people will make a guess as to what the $$$'s were.

    Trump Failing to Track Foreign Cash at His Hotels
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-failing-track-foreign-cash-his-hotels-n764061
     
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  15. NewRoxFan

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    Trump waives the very ethics pledges he touted as draining swamp...

    White House releases waivers to administration's ethics pledge
    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ases-waivers-to-administrations-ethics-pledge
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    Trump profiting from swamp water from Saudi Arabia. Hmm... didn't Trump just visit there? Hmm... aren't the Saudis trying to roll back a terrorism law? Hmm...

    President Trump's hotel received $270,000 from Saudi Arabia
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-to-hotel-owned-by-president-trump/102536764/
     
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  17. NewRoxFan

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    Wow... the swamp flows charity money right into Trump's wallet?

    How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...charity-money-into-his-business/#87f225d6b4a3
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    Swamps are often a place where coincidences happen...

    Oil lobby met with interior secretary at Trump hotel
    http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/06/investing/oil-lobby-trump-hotel-api/index.html
     
  19. NewRoxFan

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    I thought Trump's swamp draining was supposed to cut back on lobbyists in government?

    Trump Administration Names More Former Lobbyists With Ethics Waivers
    http://www.npr.org/2017/06/07/53109...mes-more-former-lobbyists-with-ethics-waivers
     
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    White House social-media director Dan Scavino violated Hatch Act with tweet targeting GOP congressman
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tch-act-with-tweet-targeting-gop-congressman/
     

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