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The W(why)TF did Trump do this? thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. mdrowe00

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    ...still trying to find all those illegal Democratic votes, I see?

    #MAGA, my man...#MAGA 'till the wheels fall off...
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    trump and SHS caught it such a horrible and easy to disprove lie, again...

     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    Why am I not surprised that this asswipe pitched the idea...

    That citizenship question on the 2020 Census? Kobach says he pitched it to Trump
    http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article207007581.html
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    "The era of economic surrender"? What in the blue **** are these people talking about?
     
  5. da_juice

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    It's a clever political move:
    - Average voter could care less about the census; but will see CA suing the administration over it. Helps affirm existing ideas that Dems are generally hysterical, overly PC.
    - More importantly, its a good way to make the immigration community appear smaller by encouraging underreporting. This does two things- 1) It allows the WH to claim immigration population has decreased (even if it hasn't) 2) It affects the way Representative and Electoral College votes are allocated. Immigrants alone won't be a massive swing but one less Dem Rep here or there can add up in a polarized Congress.
     
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    Calm down. What is your issue with the nation knowing how many citizens it has? Should illegal aliens just be counted as citizens?
     
  7. Mr.Scarface

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    Not the point of the Census. The Census counts ALL people in the country, with or without citizenship. The Census short forum (one sent to EVERYONE) has not asked about citizenship since 1950. Sanders lied thru her teeth.

    This is an attempt to suppress the count to affect Congressional districts.
     
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    The interesting thing is that this totally screws Texas. A lot of federal grants are based on population size of a state. This question hurts Texas more than most states at a time when the Texas government is essentially broke. If you're from Texas, you definitely shouldn't want this. There's no upside other than to deprive the state of tax money that it paid for.
     
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    Starving the Beast is what Jesus and the Founding Fathers really wanted.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    So, uh, Astrodome....any other questions?
     
  11. Astrodome

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    I asked 2 questions and they danced around them. If the goal of the census is to not count citizens then I think it is fair to use a different avenue.
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    What does the U.S. Census do? Let's look at the Census mission statement:

    And under What Data We Collect and When:
    https://www.census.gov/about/what.html

    You will note that "knowing how many citizens" is not one of these. The word citizen isn't listed, not even hinted at. Instead, it refers to "the nations people" and later "every resident."

    And I suspect you have a good idea why trump and Kobach are trying to include the question... a continuation of their efforts to intimidate and suppress voting to the benefit of republican votes. And the outrage is that they are fouling an activity with so many good objectives and outcomes to do so.
     
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  13. NewRoxFan

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    No, they correctly answered your questions. As I did this morning. And no, the goal of the U.S. Census is not to count citizens.
     
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    Surely your facts are non-factual.
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    We apparently live in a "Post-fact" world.
     
  16. No Worries

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    Factual facts are overrated.
     
  17. mdrowe00

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    AHA!

    I knew it!

    Then the sun ISN'T in space! It IS in the sky! Just like I said it was!

    ...where do I get one of those #MAGA hats?

    ...It'll go great with my free Obamaphone...
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    trump BS confusing his own state department again...



    Trump says US will withdraw from Syria 'very soon'
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/29/politics/trump-withdraw-syria-pentagon/index.html
     
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    Nah...not really.

    ...I think I finally got this figured out...

    ...nobody does anything except what the Donald tells them to do...when he tells them to do it...and the way he tells them to do it...
    ...nobody ad-libs or goes off-script or pretends to be competent in the "Presidential Apprentice"...
    ...or you're fired.

    ...why the hell would anybody think that they could upstage the star of the show?
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    SMH... instead of lying about his predecessor, maybe the dick-in-chief should focus on getting his own appointees confirmed and openings filled. Between golf and tweets, that is...

    Trump thanks Obama for leaving so many judicial vacancies
    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-obama-for-leaving-so-many-judicial-vacancies
     
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