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The NBA world increasingly believes that the Rockets can challenge the Warriors

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Stormy1234, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. Stormy1234

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    In September, ESPN analyst and former NBA head coach Jeff Van Gundy expressed what many people were thinking heading into the season.

    "The Warriors are going to win forever if everything stays the same," Van Gundy told Sirius XM radio.

    He added, "We're going to play it out, and the Warriors are going to win." He declared, "This season is over."

    Seven months later, a strange sort of new optimism is starting to boil around the NBA - maybe this season isn't over, thanks to the 57-14 Houston Rockets. The Rockets sit in first place in the Western Conference and own the best record in the league.

    "I'm glad there's somebody," NBA TV analyst and former NBA star Steve Smith said of a challenger to the Warriors.


    "You have a debate that they can maybe beat them. And I'm not saying years before there was nobody … but I think right now people are saying, 'Oh, this Rockets team...' Which I think makes it, competition makes it great for any league."
     
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    These Rockets look different.
    [​IMG]Ralph Freso/AP
    Mike D'Antoni has revamped his style this year with the Rockets.
    The Rockets have been arguably the most dominant team in the league this season. They own 14- and 17-game win streaks this season. Since January 1, they're 31-5 with the league's best offense and the eighth-best defense.

    A portion of the credit goes to head coach Mike D'Antoni, who has adapted his famous system in surprising ways. The Rockets are not a run-and-gun team like D'Antoni's past teams (14th in pace), and they're not the type of pass-happy team (24th in assists per game and 29th in total passes made per game) like his Phoenix Suns squads.

    Instead, perhaps two qualities best define the Rockets - three-pointers and isolation plays.

    The Rockets take 42 three-pointers per game, seven more than the second-place Brooklyn Nets. Through 71 games, they've attempted more threes than they have two-point field goals.

    "It's a really unique twist on what Mike had been doing," said former Cleveland Cavaliers GM and current NBA TV analyst David Griffin. "I think the marriage of Mike D'Antoni and [Rockets GM] Daryl Morey is among the best in the NBA because Mike is smart enough to understand the concepts behinds Daryl's desired system. You can tell the analytics have revealed some things to them."


    The Rockets are always in search of threes, even early in the shot clock and without ball movement.

    They do run a staple of D'Antoni's offensive philosophy - push the ball ahead and swing it to an open shot. Sometimes those open shots are three-pointers, even when they have open driving lanes.

    Iso, iso, baby...?
    In the past, NBA analysts have thought that reliance on three-pointers can hurt a team in the playoffs. What happens when they go cold from the outside? Will the well dry up?

    But this year's Houston squad is different, mainly because of the isolation skills of Harden and Chris Paul. Both players have used their one-on-one ability to get a step on defenders, attract help, and then find open shooters.

    Griffin said that one-on-one ability has changed how people should view the Rockets' reliance on threes.

    "[Relying on threes] could be a real concern if you had a system that was predicated on pace and space," Griffin said. "That's not what their system is predicated on. So when the game slows down in the playoffs and people are able to hold and grab more because the officiating is so different, they've got two guys that can go get shots. And it's not just a function of the threes they're taking; it's the type of threes they're taking."


    The Rockets lead the league in isolation plays, and Harden and Paul lead all players in isolation plays, according to NBA.com/Stats.

    Harden, the favorite for MVP this season, may be as close to unstoppable as there is in the NBA right now. His stop-and-go hesitation dribbles allow him to get by nearly any defender and get to the basket. Because teams fear the Rockets' shooting so much, they often switch any pick to keep players from getting open beyond the arc. Once Harden gets a mismatch he likes, he roasts the defender.

    There's still some hesitancy from the NBA world to believe that this style of play can work in the playoffs.

    "I've never seen a team run that much isolation and win a championship," TNT's Kenny Smith said, adding: "I've never seen that. I'm not saying it can't be done; I'll be interested to see it."

    Even Griffin expressed doubt that in the playoffs, where defenders can play a little more physically, that Harden and Paul can get to where they want as easily or draw fouls to go to the free throw line.

    Defense is key.
    The difference this year, to Steve Smith, is that the Rockets defend. Historically, D'Antoni's teams have not been known for their defense (though their defensive deficiencies are occasionally overstated). The Rockets finished 18th in defensive rating last season. This year they're 10th for the season, eighth since January 1, and third since January 27, when they began a stretch of winning 23 of their last 24 games.


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    Luc Mbah a Moute has been a crucial player for the Rockets.
    Having Paul up top has helped the Rockets on the defensive end, and Harden, once a punchline when opponents have the ball, has improved. But two keys to Houston's defense have been two under-the-radar signings during the offseason - Luc Mbah a Moute and P.J. Tucker.

    With Mbah a Moute on the court, the Rockets have allowed 100.4 points per 100 possessions, which would be the best figure in the league if sustained. With Tucker on the court, they have allowed 103.9 points per 100 possessions, which would rank seventh.

    D'Antoni occasionally goes to ultra-small lineups, with Tucker or Mbah a Moute at center, placing 6-foot-6 and 6-foot-8 wings, respectively, at center. Not only do these lineups allow Houston to spread the court with five shooters, making Harden and Paul's driving lanes more accessible, but it will also enable them to switch every position on defense.

    One such lineup - Harden, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, Tucker, and Mbah a Moute - has blitzed opponents by 41 points per 100 possessions, posting an outrageous 142.4 offensive rating. Another, featuring Paul in Ariza's place, has outscored opponents by over 30 points per 100 possessions.

    The size disadvantage the Rockets have in those situations doesn't scare them. In fact, they invite plays like the one below, where rookie forward Zach Collins spends several seconds trying to post up Tucker before settling for a tough, low-percentage shot. These situations are where the Rockets' math-fueled philosophy plays out - they can outscore opponents if opponents want to run their offense like this.

    In some ways, these lineups are ideal for facing the Warriors - the Rockets can spread the floor to keep up with the Warriors' explosive offense, and they can switch at every position, nixing some of the Warriors' advantages.


    But Griffin, who knows a thing or two about matching up with the Warriors after three straight Finals matchups, notes one potential problem. Mbah a Moute and Tucker have both been efficient from three-point range this season, but neither, historically, are great shooters. Opposing defenses will likely lay off of them in the playoffs to clog the driving lanes for Paul and Harden.

    Additionally, Griffin said the Cavs never wanted to let Stephen Curry rest on defense. The Warriors will often hide Curry on opponents' worst offensive threat; in the Rockets' case, that would likely mean Tucker or Mbah a Moute. The Cavs tried to put Curry through the ringer on defense, screening him and forcing him to switch onto LeBron James or Kyrie Irving. The Rockets would likely try to do the same with Paul or Harden to force Curry to spend as much energy as possible on defense.

    Griffin also noted a logistical advantage the Warriors could have. If they're fully healthy, they may face the Rockets earlier than the Cavs ever did. In fact, the year the Cavs beat the Warriors in the Finals, the Warriors had just been through a grueling seven-game series against the Oklahoma City Thunder, and Curry was already battling a knee injury.

    Still, even the NBA world is crossing its fingers to see these two heavyweights square off in the playoffs.

    "That's gonna be a hell of a series when they play," Charles Barkley said.

    "If Golden State is healthy, I would say that I would favor Golden State pretty heavily," Griffin said. "But I think Houston has the best chance that anyone in the West has had in quite some time."


    Griffin added: "The closer to a Swiss Army Knife your roster can be, the better. And Daryl knows that, and he's built a team that's pretty versatile and interchangeable, and that's significant."

    Even Van Gundy seems to have come around.

    "I've been saying for the past month they're the second-best team by far to Golden State, and now I'm willing to say they're as good as Golden St right now," Van Gundy told Fox 26's Mark Berman before a March game.

    "I think that Western Conference Final between Houston and Golden State is really the championship."
     
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    media conspiracy
     
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    What’s a concl?
     
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    the long version:

    "The NBA world increasingly believes that the Rockets can challenge what seemed like a forblown conspiracy"
     
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    I. D. I. O. T.
     
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    Male sibling, behold thee a sight of the organized mass communication spreaders suddenly move on the hands and knees or by dragging the body close to the ground in the backward direction!
     
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    Nice read, Stormy1234! That article is spot on.
     
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    It does.

    icymi: I think that is taken straight out of this article, which has it's own thread.

    [SI] Five-Man Freight Train: These Rockets Lineups Run the NBA Wild
     
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    I like the fact a year ago the consensus was nobody should even think about beating GS. But the Rockets have changed the narrative this year. The funniest part is NOBODY in the media saw this coming before the season. Even funnier is the fact we don't really have the starpower the media drools over. We have James & Chris, but Chris wasn't even a allstar this year. So you can't go with the "well the Rockets have all that elite talent" excuse. We're doing it the RIGHT way. Through great coaching, great roster moves by the GM, a superstar who's unselfish & a supporting cast that is hungry and knows their role individually. We are a more talented version of the 95-96 championship team with Clyde & Hakeem. I just PRAY Harden shows up in the postseason this year
     
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    Usually if Rockets can repeat it for another season or two seasons, it's going to be a mini dynasty.
     
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    Kenny should know better, that 93-94 team in particular was straight up iso play after iso play to Olajuwon in the post. Just because it was a post player who didn't dribble as much, does not mean all those possessions trying to dump it into Olajuwon - who then drew double teams to kick it out for threes / cuts to the basket or just a make a play - was not iso. We were ISO heavy! The early 90s was a lot of pick and roll with OT, but once Olajuwon became that leader, it was straight up give it to him and let him go to work.
     
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    I don't know why they would think otherwise. We dominated them in the regular season. The only way we lose is by getting away from the style of play we used to get this far. Nobody can beat us unless "lack of calls" leads to frustration, silly mistakes, and hot headed technicals by being baited into them. As for the 3's, well even when guys are stone cold, we always seem to find a way to the inside, or have somebody hot from the arc, so that part doesn't worry me. My biggest concern is Clint being tagged as a target in close games for teams over the limit and forcing him to shoot free throws.
     
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    dont know why? just take a look at the board earlier in the season. a good chunk of cf's didn't even think hou had any chance of beating GS or having this good of a season. now all of a sudden the season is coming down to the end and people want to make it seem like this was no surprise to everyone. the bandwagon is starting
     
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    I agree with this. You have to agree with this to an extent. Officiating is the great equalizer. If the NBA refs decide to let ISO players get bullied in the post-season, everything changes. We have to be wary of that.
    Not only did the media not predict any contention with Golden State - they were actively saying that the Harden-Paul combo was going to backfire. They actually thought Houston was going to be the same as last season, record-wise (if not worse). This is the pinnacle of wrongness from the media and their legions of loudmouth fan followers, and I'm loving every minute of it.
     
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    I think that first lineup has only played for like 10 minutes, haha. I could be wrong.
     
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    sounds like guys who said teams who shoot too many jumpers and 3s won't win a championship but now that's become how you win an actual championship the last several years
     
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    Of course Kenny has to throw shade. First a team couldn’t win shooting threes, now moving the goal post, a team couldn’t possibly win with just ISO plays.
     
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    let's make sure we'll advance deep enough in the playoff before we worry about GS, there's this thing call "upset" that still exist in NBA.
     

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