Hi Bobrek Ive referenced several times Clowney's complaint is in an official grievance. Google Clowney grievance
This is what I believe and it has been supported by numeral reports and it makes sense based on some things Clowney himself said: Clowney wanted to play with the Texans this year. He wanted a long-term deal. Texans weren't going to offer him what he wanted. He decided to sit out training camp. Realized Texans weren't budging and didn't want to sit out the year. Planned to report after week 3 of the preseason. Heard the Texans were planning on trading him, specifically to Miami, and was upset (John Granato and Patrick Storm reported slightly different versions of this before no one else). Decided to use the only leverage he had left to decide where he plays this year; refused to sign the tender until the Texans met his requests (i.e. Seattle or Philly). He gets traded to the Seahawks.
And to add, Aaron Donald held out till the end of August. Melvin Gordon is still holding out Marshawn Lynch held out Even Andre Johnson held out. To think that a player holds out and still plans on playing for the same team isn't new.
In the end, who cares? The Texans didn’t want him anymore. Felt the defense would still be fine without him. Honestly, if Clowney is still trying to figure out what defensive position suits him the best, so be it. Let it be on somebody else’s dime. Touted as a generational talent... he will be lucky to simply be a perennial pro bowler.
Who cares? Apparently @pgabriel or whoever brought it up does. I personally wanted Clowney on the Texans but it was obvious early in the process the Texans didn't want him. Then it became a matter of when they dealt him and what they got in return.
We know that but we were saying that he intended to sign the tag until he learned Houston planned to trade him. Weren't you saying that wasn't true?
Im saying i have proof he didn't sign the tag cause of being franchised as a linebacker confirmed by his complaint Him not signing it cause of being traded is a rumor. Dude filed a complaint waay back on July 15 @Nimo Players hold out. They don't refuse to sign franchise tags. I cant this stress it enough apparently because you're totality how extreme it is It happened once and the player who did it was on his second tag (leveon bell)
Good lord. Seattle is designating him as an end now. Houston wasn't going to offer him anything else. If he wanted anything he had to sign Another thread repeat. League only allows being tagged as what you have been. . Im sure another rule is once its been offered you can't rescind it
I don't think you understand the difference between designate a position and playing a position. Teams don't designate players at a position, the league does. And that designation only affects franchise tags for the next year. It does nothing for him this year. If some other team signs Clowney next year and want him to play DE, it doesn't matter where he is playing now. It only affects the franchise tag number. And that number goes up since it's the 2nd year. I doubt that even happens. Also, Frank Clark did not sign his franchise tender until he got traded. Von Miller openly said he wouldn't sign the franchise tender if they tagged him. Demarcus Lawrence did the same till he got his deal. Once again you're wrong about players not signing franchise tenders. What was unprecedented was the Texans not coming up with a deal or agreeing to a trade before the July deadline. That dropped his trade value considerably.
Oh, boy............ Dude, this isn't relevant. The league mandated his franchise position way back in February when the Texans used the franchise tag on him.
I think others have (inadvertently) failed to point out what pushed this situation OUT of the ordinary: July 15. Prior to July 15, teams can negotiate long-term deals with their franchise players or - and this is the critical part - trade them to whomever they want, for whatever they want. The player has no say in the matter. Once that deadline passes, however, the team can no longer negotiate a contract with the player and ANY ACTION involving the player first requires that he sign his franchise tender - INCLUDING A TRADE. THAT is where and how the Texans screwed themselves. They... dragged their feet or were unaware of that deadline or....... WHATEVER - but after July 15 passed, trading Clowney required him first signing the tender which meant... if the Texans traded him somewhere he didn't want to go, he could refuse to sign his tender and torpedo the deal (which is what he did). The team essentially strangled his value (by letting the deadline pass) AND handed him total power over any trade.
For the umpteenth time i know it doesn't affect this year's contract. But thanks for making me repeat it again. I am just referring to him agreeing to go to Seattle
Clowney screwed them by not signing. You all are assuming they wanted to trade him. Regardless it doesn't affect what they got in return. They seem to be content with not having him and having his cap space
Funny that Jacob Martin had as many tackles and more QB hits against the Saints than Clowney did. Oh and it was against Brees not Bridgewater.
