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Texans fire GM Brian Gaine

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DaBeard, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. Chilly_Pete

    Chilly_Pete Contributing Member

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    Would be very Texans like if we lose a draft pick over this.
     
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  4. gucci888

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    Outside of Caserio spilling the beans or some type of recorded conversation, think this is a Hail Mary attempt by the Pats. Photos and videos of them shaking talking and shaking hands is nothing.
     
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    Pats are good at spying...
     
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    Rumor has it they security footage of the ring party where BOB, Easterby and Caserio got together in the corner, looked to see if anyone was watching then proceeded to each throw up the H and bounce to “Still Tippin’ on 4-4s”
     
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    So lemme get this straight:

    1) Texans fire their GM with almost unprecedented timing
    2) They can't get permission to interview the heir apparent and the alleged reason for 1) occuring
    3) Now may have to give up a draft pick over the whole thing
     
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    Just keeps getting better doesn't it?
     
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    Don't you miss having the same mediocre GM year after year?
     
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  10. CrazyJoeDavola

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    It would only be better if we havevto end up hiring one of the token Rooney interviewes AND lose a draft pick for tampering.

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    I don't think there will be any "paper" or video/audio trail that would prove collusion against us.
    I think it's just N.E. trying to gum up the works in the hopes that we will move on, or they will be able to keep Caserio with more money.
    If we stay the course I think it will work out.



    Did you hear his "proof"/reasoning for this statement?
    The fact that Caserio hasn't been hired immediately.
    Ridiculous! Terribly flawed logic!
    We COULDN'T hire him right away!
    We have to go through the process no matter what.
    McClain admitted he has no real inside intel on this one, he's just being a team mouthpiece.

    The only possible scenario that scares me is if Caserio saw this as an opportunity to get a hefty raise/title bump and told us he would be interested in the GM job as a rouse to get NE to do what the Jets did for Joe Douglas once they found out about our opening.

    That would be terrible.
    Caserio stays, gets a bump in salary and then says......."yeah they contacted me and I said maybe but then had 2nd thoughts" and we lose draft picks on top of everything.
    That would be an incredibly sneaky, evil type of scam to run.
    What if this was actually devised by Belichick himself?


    No, don't even want to go mthere!
     
  12. Jturbofuel

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    Texans were denied permission when they hired Gaine because they couldn't prove that it was anything less than a lateral move because Pats said since O'Brien had final say on personnel it was the same situation as he was already in with the Pats. Now in the Texans interviewing process Bill O'Brien is one of the people on the interview panel. What job lets you hire your boss ?
     
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    The Texans haven’t been denied permission, not yet at least. The tampering charge has been the first and only official action by the Pats if I’m not mistaken.
     
  14. rfrocket

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    Totally different.
    Caserio will be given full control over personnel.
    And B.O.B. is NOT hiring his boss.
    He's just 1 of 5 there at the meeting(s).


    Looks like the pats couldn't convince him to stay so now they're trying to exact some "value" for him.
    Still don't see any way the Texans would be stupid enough to leave anything concrete that could be used to penalize them so I don't know why they would give up pick(s).

    But I DO firmly believe they knew Caserio was interested before they fired Gaine.
     
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    We will look ridiculous if this gets ruled as tampering... on the other hand if the Pats lose out and we still get Caserio, he'll most likely get canned within the first two-three seasons anyway.

    This is a win/win for the Patriots as usual.
     
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    Brian gaine racist?
     
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    Save the kudos for Texans cleaning up their own mess

    We tend to bend over backward to maintain genteel coverage and sports fandom in this huge, warm-hearted small town.

    So, some of y'all want to applaud the Texans for admitting they don't know what they're doing?

    "At least give them some credit for firing the guy when they realized he wasn't good," read one email on the Texans parting ways with general manager Brian Gaine.

    Are you serious?

    Put a setup in front of that and it'll play in comedy clubs. Such incompetence doesn't deserve applause.

    The spin that Gaine was in over his head doesn't smell right.

    Gaine went from what Bill O'Brien described as "head and shoulders" above all the candidates the Texans interviewed for general manager last year to "wasn't the team's first choice" after he was fired.

    Let's not play this silly game.

    I don't know Gaine well enough to give a head nod for a bouncer at a club to let him in if he didn't have his ID, let alone well enough to speak to how good of a general manager he might be.

    But if he wasn't good enough to be the Texans' general manager, that is on them, not him.

    It's not like they went out and hired an unknown off the streets, based on a LinkedIn profile or some random recommendation.

    The guy worked as the team's director of pro personnel for three years, then left for virtually the same job with Buffalo.

    A year later, the Texans welcomed him back.

    To portray him as incompetent or not up to the task now that he has been fired is classless. If he is a better personnel man than a GM, the Texans should have figured that out before hiring him.

    Gaine, who has worked in NFL front offices for 20 years, interviewed for GM jobs with a half-dozen teams. He almost got one of the jobs (Eagles), but in the end each of those teams went in another direction.

    Not the Texans.

    Look, I'm OK with admitting a mistake, taking full blame for it and acting quickly to fix the problem, even if it means firing someone.

    That is what happened when UH's Tony Levine fired his offensive coordinator after just one game. But he had never worked with the guy and didn't know him that well.

    It was a bad fit, a bad hire by a coach who had a lot to learn about being the CEO of a football program.

    The Texans and Gaine is a far worse situation. With as much information as they had on him, how could they get that hire so wrong?

    Maybe they didn't.

    I get the sense that personality had more to do with Gaine's poor evaluation than performance.

    Regardless, the Texans don't get kudos for firing a general manager after a year and a half on the job because they were smart enough to see he wasn't good.

    That is laughable.

    They should have been smart enough to see he wasn't good before they hired him.
     

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