Sources: Celtics Looking To Deal Allen

TheGreat · Feb 1, 2010

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...g=aw-garnettceltics020110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Would you guys do Ray Allen for T-Mac straight up? Both are expiring?

studogg · Feb 1, 2010

now why would boston have any interest in that trade?

any

TheGreat · Feb 1, 2010

studogg said:

now why would boston have any interest in that trade?

any
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True, but Boston want to have a guy who will stay there after? McGrady will be happy to stay with a playoff contender and a friend like KG.

FLASH21 · Feb 1, 2010

studogg said:

now why would boston have any interest in that trade?

any
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And ,why could this not have gone under the other Allen to be traded thread?

RocketMania1991 · Feb 1, 2010

TheGreat said:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...g=aw-garnettceltics020110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Would you guys do Ray Allen for T-Mac straight up? Both are expiring?
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For a Rockets fan I guess Allen for T-Mac for short term is a decent deal, but no reason for the Celtics to do that.

Allen can still be a good player in this league and is used to playing in the Celtic offense.

If they traded for Mcgrady they would be getting no guarantees of how he can play or fit in with that team.

No way Celtics trade Allen for Mcgrady no reason for that.

TheGreat · Feb 1, 2010

Didn't see other thread, lock please.

Dave_78 · Feb 1, 2010

No way Boston would take Tslack but how funny would it be to see Tracy adopt that KG-type bad attitude that infected the entire Celtics squad faster than a zombie virus.

Kojirou · Feb 1, 2010

If Morey pulled that off, I would kiss the ground on which he walked. Seriously.

roslolian · Feb 1, 2010

LOL the Celts are trading Allen for a reason: Allen is a one dimensional scorer earning the Max. IMHO everyone on the Celtics roster is overrated-even KG, although in his defense he's already old and probably still injured. Think about it, the Celts have 3 (maybe 4) all stars on their team, and they're not even the best team in the East?

We get Allen and the euphoria for getting something with Tmac will last till Allen's first bad shooting night. Then you'll see him getting manhandled on D and generally abused by all the other guards in the league. Then you'll smack yourself in head for essentially getting black, SG version of Peja except he's making the MAX instead of 12 mill

Clutch · Feb 1, 2010

studogg said:

now why would boston have any interest in that trade?

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because...

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amaru · Feb 2, 2010

Yea.......no thanks.

redwhiteone · Feb 3, 2010

A pure shooter for the Rockets? Why not

Christopher · Feb 3, 2010

A bit surprised by them wanting to make this move.

CaptainRox · Feb 3, 2010

Battier-Andersen for Allen Straight up ( I know tough to let Shane go but Allen would be nice.)

Then T-Mac & Hayes for Iggy and Dalembert

AB/Lowry
Allen/C-Bud
Iggy/Ariza
Scolandry
Yao/Dalembert

+ JT and Conroy

( then yet again Ariza might be thick headed and might not want to come off the bench but he's been relatively good about doing it in LA and Orlando)

jasonemilio · Feb 3, 2010

Can we get Tony Allen instead?

rocketblaze · Feb 3, 2010

No thanks!!!

--RB

T-Slack · Feb 3, 2010

a rumor I read said Kirk Hinrich and John Solmans for Allen. If I was the C's I would do it. They would have a back up point guard and Solmans to replace him.

LifeisButaDream · Feb 3, 2010

tmac for allen+rondo. :grin:

J.R. · Feb 8, 2010

Few grand conclusions can be drawn from February NBA games. But in this case, the Celtics' latest disappointing loss only underscored what has been a poorly kept secret among NBA executives for weeks: Ray Allen's time in Boston is likely coming to an end.

Thanks to a non-competitive third quarter, the Celtics fell to Orlando 96-89 on Sunday, dropping them to third in the East behind the Cavs and Magic. The struggling Celtics still have three games against Cleveland to prove they haven't fallen from elite status. But after going 1-3 against Orlando and 0-4 against Atlanta, the Celtics have reached a crossroads in their bid to milk one more championship banner out of the Allen-Paul Pierce-Kevin Garnett era.

Don't bet on every member of the Big Three being around beyond the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

Though team president Danny Ainge has publicly ridiculed the Allen trade reports, several NBA executives told CBSSports.com that the Celtics have been actively trying to parlay Allen's $19.7 million expiring contract into an asset that could keep them in the mix during the upcoming playoffs and also help them for the next several seasons. The most recent inquiry, sources say, involved Sacramento sharpshooter Kevin Martin, who'd be a good fit with Boston's remaining core. Kings officials might be talked out of their reluctance to deal Martin if they could pry a prolific big man out of a third team brought into the discussions or in a separate transaction before the deadline.

The bottom line is that Ainge, who saved his job by pulling off the perfect storm of trades that yielded Allen and Garnett three years ago, has made it clear in private conversations that he's "not going back to the abyss," according to one person familiar with the discussions.

"Danny has said, 'I can't go back to square one where we were prior to the Garnett deal,'" the person said. "At the All-Star break, they’re going to look in the mirror and say, 'Cleveland got better, we can't beat Orlando, and we can't even beat the Hawks. We’re not going to win it this year.'"

If the Celtics kept Allen and let his contract come off the books, they'd still be over the cap this summer with no avenues besides sign-and-trades to acquire a starting shooting guard. That's why Boston also has expressed interest in the Bulls' Kirk Hinrich, an excellent defender and ball-handler who would give the Celtics a starting two guard next season at $9 million and in 2011-12 at $8 million. The Bulls' motivation would be cap relief.

The Kings, who are not planning to be big free-agent shoppers this summer, aren't seeking to acquire cap space alone. They want assets -- and the Celtics don't have a young big man to offer. The Bulls, who almost certainly will move Tyrus Thomas, might need to be invited into that conversation to satisfy everyone's needs.

Whatever avenue they pursue, the Celtics don't want to go into this summer with no cap flexibility and no assets that could be used to keep them among the elite. Before Ainge struck the 2007 draft-related deal for Allen and then plucked Garnett from Minnesota with the help of former teammate Kevin McHale, the Celtics had just endured a 24-win season and hadn't been out of the first round since 2002-03. Ainge and Doc Rivers were on the brink of getting fired until the perfect remedy presented itself -- and the Celtics parlayed the Allen and Garnett deals into their 17th NBA title.

"Kevin McHale's out of the league," one rival executive said, only half-joking. "So they're not going to be able to recreate that deal again."

The period leading up to that was so grim that nobody in the organization wants to revisit it. The best way to avoid such a scenario would be to part ways with Allen. It wouldn't be starting over. Instead, it would be a bold attempt to have a chance against Cleveland, Orlando, and Atlanta in the playoffs and avoid going back to the depths of rebuilding
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http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/19962246?

Martin for Allen a good deal?

R0ckets03 · Feb 8, 2010

Kojirou said:

If Morey pulled that off, I would kiss the ground on which he walked. Seriously.
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LOL...why?

Whats so special about Jesus SW anymore?

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