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[Rosenthal] Breaking: Red Sox Penalties

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by DieHard Rocket, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. Nick

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    This ruling is pretty much confirming the suspicion that most teams have some sort of “system” in place. Notice how you won’t see many players speak up regarding this ruling/findings as they did the Astros... either they’ve been instructed not to do so by baseball or they really just want this to go away (or both).
     
  2. right1

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    He spent the off-season prior to 2019 opening day making sure the Yankees video room was ready to go. This is a known fact, but Manfred (a lifelong Yankees fan) refuses to broach the subject and certainly has no intentions of investigating.
     
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    And we know Beltran was watching everything like he was De Niro in Casino because he talked to Yuli about what he was doing wrong with his swing and fixed it for him. I'm thankful for that but geesh, come on Yankees fans uncover those eyes and ears.
     
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  4. Rock Block

    Rock Block Sorta here sometimes
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    and don’t forget when Beltran got to Houston in 2017 he told the players that the Astros “were way behind” in stealing signs. Cora, Beltran, they all were of the assumption that every team is doing “something”.
     
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    BSPNs front page is indeed the nfl draft, in which mlb planned to happen when average shlubs check in and dont pay attention to the mlb. So, I check bspns mlb home page and the headline is "A 4 man outfield could be the next big thing".

    What a joke. What a ****ing joke.
     
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    I don't understand the logic of other fans.

    Either it was only done one year...and only the Astros are guilty...
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    It wasn't. Cora and Beltran did it everywhere they went, and that it is widespread.

    It's either or here. They can't have it both ways.

    But fans will tell you not only did the Astros cheat in 2017, they did the years after (and some say the years before) BUT not only that. The ringleaders behind the cheating, Cora and Beltran, just magically stopped cheating once they went to the Red Sox and Yankees, they just stopped on the spot because...??? why?

    Yankee fans are amazing, they trash Verlander for not speaking up about it, say we cheated LAST SEASON, and then accept Cole's reply that he knew nothing about it and he didn't see any cheating last year. I didn't see a single Yankee fan call Cole a liar even though he basically said the same thing Correa said, Altuve, etc etc

    I really don't understand the logic, it's why I've come to realize they are all salty.
     
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  8. msn

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    Yes, the hypocrisy is strong with these ones. The BS runs deep.
     
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    I hope they both burn in hell. I seriously will throw down with Passan if I get the chance
     
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    I looked at ESPN First Take, which I hadn't kept up with at all and thought they stopped doing shows because of the pandemic. I pretty much stopped watching because of the Astros crap but on their segment regarding this even they were like it was a little weird that MLB would dump this at a time when nobody's really paying that much attention. Bad look overall.
     
  11. msn

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    Breaking: MLB releases Red Sox "penalty".
    Not breaking: MLB leadership is ridiculously biased towards certain pet franchises to the point they don't mind acting with overt hypocrisy.
     
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    This all but confirms that the MLB doesnt give a rats *** about the truth, is only concerned with league bottom lines, and that the RedSox are vastly more important to the league than the Astros. After what the Astros have gone through this off-season...and with the frame job of the MLB and their looking of the other way...it's just asinine. **** the MLB. Part of me wants to drop the entire league and stop watching because of how much of an absolute joke and mockery this has become, but I love the Astros too much to do that.
     
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    Someone in the media needs to offer the suspended replay booth guy some cash for his side of the story. There's your whistle-blower.
     
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    Literally 1 article posted from 5 days ago on ESPN.com. I try to ignore the bias arguments but this is blatant.
     
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    Same here. I've rolled my eyes at the bias cries for years, but this is freaking heinous.
     
  16. Nick

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    Will be telling if there are any further articles at all about this... Astros or Red Sox. If not, strong indications that MLB told the media that what they did with the Astros story was over-the-top and they need to tone it dow.

    If there are more Astros slander pieces, without any reference to the Red Sox... its bias and piss-poor journalism.
     
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    That's a nice hypothesis, but it doesn't take into account the obvious double-standard MLB employed with each investigation. Sickening.
     
  18. Nick

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    I don't think they realized after the first investigation that they would be that ridiculed and the story would be that prolific. The original Fiers/Athletic article had come out months before, which chronicled/detailed pretty much everything that was already discussed. If anything, Manfred's investigation merely cleared up some of the perpetual rumors that needed clarification (buzzers?, 2019 cheating?).

    That and there was no whistle-blower for the Red Sox.
     
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  19. msn

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    That who would be ridiculed?

    It was the Astros' first violation. It was the Red Sox's second. The Red Sox gave inconsistent stories; the Astros did not. The Astros' offense is generally agreed upon as a bit worse; their punishment is three or four times heavier. The Sox, again, are second-time offenders.

    On top of that: Luhnow and Hinch get the "you're accountable for what's going on in your organization" treatment while the Sox get "They couldn't have known."

    MLB is without excuse here. It's sickening. If I were Crane I'd sue their asses off. It's disingenuous and hypocritical. In earlier terms, it's bulls***.
     
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  20. msn

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    *earthier
    I love how phones know what you mean to say better than you do. #autocorrectsucks
     

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