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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Former speaker of the house and Trump friend Newt Gingrich has solved the case.

    Of course, Gingrich didn't hold that same opinion in the past when it was a Democrat as president:

    Life must be easy when you don't have any morals guiding what you say or do:

    This coming from someone that divorced his wife (and even argued about the divorce) while she she was in the hospital fighting cancer.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/gingrich-defends-trump-again/index.html
     
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    It's hard to be more of a joke than Gingrich. Does anyone take that guy seriously? I believe not even most Republicans take that clown seriously anymore.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    You aren't under investigation... you are under investigation... you aren't under investigation... make up your mind!

    Trump Attorney: The President Is Not Under Investigation
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-attorney-president-not-under-investigation-n773751
     
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    Hmm, makes you wonder if Trump's tweets were in reaction to that news article saying he was under investigation and it was just more fake news due to inaccurate "multiple sauces". It would make sense because if Mueller took the investigation in that direction, it really would cause a conflict of interest and he really would have to recuse himself (as would Rosenstein) or be removed. Since neither of those things have happened, it's very possible that the investigation never went that direction to begin with.
     
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    Trump's lawyer... "er, I may have spoken too fast..."

    Trump lawyer insists there is no obstruction investigation — but then hedges
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5fd8e0c288f_story.html?utm_term=.3e36d64d7880
     
  6. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Now Newt is under investigation for setting up the meetings with Trumps advisors and Russia....this is gonna FINALLY drain that swamp.

    DD
     
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    Where did you see that
     
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    Wow, Sekulow's interview on Fox News was a perfect illustration of the lack of honesty and/or incompetence of the people that Trump surrounds himself with. While attempting to deny that Trump was being investigated on the main Sunday news shows, Sekulow actually says Trump is being investigated not once, but twice:



    In addition, he tries to float the excuse that Trump was not notified... which lawyers point out that Sekulow should know is not a requirement. And of course, Trump could simply ask if he was under investigation.



    In fact, Sekulow proceeds to float a number of untruths throughout this interview: that after Trump told 35 million Rosenstein was leading a "witch hunt" against him: "He's never said Rosenstein did anything wrong."; After Trump told 35 million that Mueller was "bad and conflicted," Sekulow goes on TV and says, "He hasn't said anything about Mueller."; Sekulow told FNC he'd never discussed Mueller with Trump—which is an insanity, coming from his attorney, and *also* breaches privilege; Sekulow said Comey and Trump had attorney-client privilege (false) and Trump's tweet was 100% legal (false; it's Witness Tampering); Trump can't tell Sessions and Rosenstein to request Comey's removal and then have his attorney say, "Well—*they* requested his removal."; Trump can't tell us—via NBC—Rosenstein had nothing to do with his decision to fire Comey, then let Sekulow say the DAG was "part of it."

    All sourced to Seth Abramson (attorney and Professor of Law at University of New Hampshire).
     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Organizational incompetence is a disease that starts at the top and spreads downward accordingly. Yet, Trump wonders why his administration has been struck by one blunder after another. How many firings or shakeups can Trump go through before reality becomes inescapable?
     
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    You may know it better by its former name: The Face-Palmer Report.
     
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    Well, the article did link to a tweet from some random GOP hating guy who noted it was from a reliable source. You can't get much more legitimate than that.

    Seriously, is this Palmer guy trying to be the left wing version of infowars?
     
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    Honestly Newt is a dinosaur who is grasping to stay politically relevant, and I doubt that the Trump campaign really thought of him as a serious asset to involve in their campaign, much less involve in a plot with the Russians.

    Its the business interested folks that I'm sure Mueller & co. are targeting first as in a quid pro quo type of scenario, you follow the money first, and the money tells you the story with nothing but the facts. If Russian Oligarchs (working on behalf of Putin) were engaging US persons, there was money involved, and that transaction isn't going to be entrusted by someone like Newt Gingrich. He could be like how Sessions was likely involved, in charge of coordinating the political messaging, but even in that case its unlikely they were dumb enough to incriminate themselves and get caught on insecure communications.

    I think the links that will be the focus will be Kushner, and Mannafort. First thing Mueller needs to find though is where and how did the Oligarchs pay anyone in the Trump orbit? Then reverse engineer that or those transactions.
     
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    Trump carries guys he knows he can bully
     
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    As soon as Gingrich's most recent wife (not the ex-wife he divorced while she was battling cancer, but wife #3) was promised the plum post of Ambassador to The Holy See, Gingrich has been babbling the pro-trump manifesto, this week's version, like a dog howling at a female in heat he can't reach. It's quite the pathetic display, folks. Newt the Fruit is contradicting himself shamelessly on a whole host of topics, gleefully singing the "trump tune" like a canary in a coal mine with laryngitis.
     
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    And, Jeff Session's lawyer... defended California's Proposition 8, which banned same sex marriages. His lawyer is also famous for defending Bob Jones University and their ban on interracial dating. Seems they are close friends that share many of the same beliefs...

    http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a52952/charles-cooper-solicitor-general/
     
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