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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. ghettocheeze

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    First Comey and now Mueller, why Trump has no shame in smearing the integrity of respectable career civil servants.

    What's next? Attacking Supreme Court justices who won't endorse his travel ban?

    There has got to be a limit to this kind dishonorable behavior from the president. After all, he is a civil servant himself, not god-emperor.
     
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    The criticism of Comey is completely fair as is the suggestion that Mueller should recuse himself if the leaks about the direction of the investigation are true. Of all the reasons to complain about Trump, this isn't one of them. Sure he's irresponsible with his Tweets, but let's not pretend that Comey was competent or that Mueller doesn't have a conflict of interest if he's really trying to investigate the firing of one of his personal friends who is upset about being terminated.
     
  3. ghettocheeze

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    Trump is not using criticism when he defames Comey as "nut job" or Mueller as "phony," but you know the difference very well bobby, yet you continue to pretend like this not happening.

    You simply believe it's being "irresponsible" but this is really dishonorable behavior coming from the president to attack and smear respectable men in such ways. The man is unfit to be president when he resorts to name calling people like a school bully. Have you ever see such behavior from a president?
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Y'all need to stop looking through this with the false hope something is gonna get Tr

    It's ridiculous considering what it takes to be president

    Do you think franchiseblade can just willy nilly be president

    Secondly you can't just say they gave him money.cause of Trump funding his campaign

    That would really be unfair

    Instead you have to come up with an outlandish suggestion of hacked emails influenced the election

    I mean to the "well the FBI saidso" they had to back away from the election was influenced with

    They're constantly backing off y'all are swinging for the fences
     
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  7. No Worries

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    Next up, Republicans worry about Trump's crime discipline.
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    He's not used to the quid pro quo like the way we do it because he never had to learn Latin at an Ivy League.

    Give him some time, we'll teach him to prevaricate like an insider and eat steak cooked in a way a real man should.
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    I think Franchiseblade could be president if he nutted out of a dick worth 300 million dollars in capital and pandered to the lowest common denominator for half a decade.

    I think you also could given similar circumstances.

    I actually have a question for Trump supporters/sympathizers/apologists.

    Do you have enough pride in yourself to at least admit that more than likely you are more intelligent than the president?
     
  10. mtbrays

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    It's why they like him. They've been trained to think of anybody who speaks in complete sentences as "elitist" and ignore it when this charlatan, who lives in a gold-plated apartment that would've made Saddam Hussein blush, talks to them real good with the best words.
     
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    Are you Trump?

    I'm serious.

    This broken thought train of a post reeks of Trump twitter style.
     
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    Such a great picture lol
     
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    When it's accurate criticism I don't have a problem with it other than it being unpresidenital.
     
  15. tallanvor

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    ITs not justice to have an investigative team that answers to no branch of government and can investigate any topic they feel like for eternity. This is anything but justice. Either limit their investigation to Russian interference or fire Mueller. I would be happy with either.

     
  16. fchowd0311

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    Bobby stating that a career FBI agent is incompetent is equivalent to someone who only knows Algebra telling someone that got a C+ in a Multivariable Calculus exam that they suck at math. He has no ****ing clue what it means to be incompetent in this career line other than he disagrees with him not recommending charges for Hillary and emails.

    Out of every poster in the D&D, I've never witnessed someone as effected by the Dunning-Krugger effect as much as Bobby.
     
  17. JeffB

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    I agree. It would be horrible to have a president who worked with a foreign adversary to undermine our democracy. But even in exoneration, it is terrible that our country is led by someone who lacks any interest in securing our democracy against the actions of a foreign adversary and is, instead, seemingly trying to curry favor with said nation. I'd hate to think we just have some Russophile or useful idiot in the Oval Office whose ego is too weak to face the idea that Russians did what our intel agencies claim they did or just let the investigations run their course. Because his behavior in dealing with they challenge to his ego is authoritarian in every way and a very ominous sign of how he will deal with challenges to his image as a strongman.

    This is/was supposed to be about a counterintelligence investigation into Russian active measures to interfere in our elections, which included hacking and targeted propaganda campaigns. Ideally, Trump knew nothing about it and his campaign did not collude. But between his lack of interest in getting to the bottom of that story combined with his desire to end and behavior to end those investigations, he has made himself a major target. Openly bragging about firing Comey to get rid of the Russia story and his behavior toward Russia is highly suspicious and deserves a close look.

    Given the number of people with political and/or financial connections to Russia,with whom he has surrounded himself, of course his campaign was gonna be looked at. But Trump, for whatever reason -- guilt or his bullying habits, keeps clumsily trying to shut the thing down. Trump could have, at any moment, just behaved like a statesman and said that Russian intereference was terrible and that our intel agencies should get to the bottom of it, his "satellite" associates should be reviewed, and after a public airing of the facts, our government should craft new measures to secure our election infrastructure and minimize the ability of a foreign nation to flood our discourse with propaganda. Then we move on to pass new laws ensuring security of voting machines, to funding programs to help local election workers and volunteers secure machines, and to having the debate about how we address the ability of foreign actors to influence our elections via influxes of money and leveraging big data and social media to influence voters in our free society. But it isn't in a Trump to do that. And that, itself, is concerning.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    I agree with what they are saying, but not their reason for saying it. The reason the investigation has to be limited is due to Mueller's conflict of interest when it comes to him investigating a personal friend's claims of wrongful termination. If you get Mueller to recuse himself or you fire him for not doing so then they absolutely should be able to investigate the potential obstruction of justice.....it just can't be Mueller or anyone else with close ties to the people involved.
     
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  19. mtbrays

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    The GOP sold its soul when they nominated this sideshow. He's stupid, uncurious about the world around him and has surrounded himself with shady people for decades after the only savvy business move he made was licensing out his name. Anybody complaining about a widening investigation into Trump's financial ties, his advisors' ties to Russia, etc. is really reacting to the wool being pulled off of their eyes.

    To paraphrase GOP strategist Rick Wilson, you could've nominated John Kasich. You could've nominated Jeb Bush. Hell, you could've nominated Ted Cruz. But you chose Trump. This is the bed you made and it's time to sleep in it, whether or not it's been urinated on by Russian prostitutes.
     
  20. tallanvor

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    also a legitimate reason to restrain Mueller.
     

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