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Ready The Clown Car: The First Batch of Democrats Are Ready To Announce Their 2020 Bids

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  1. DonnyMost

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    This level of thirstiness is not a good look for you.
     
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    Michael Avenatti announces donation of $4 million.

     
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    Wrong thread.
     
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    First off....... that isn't a pride parade, that is a Juvenile video... :eek:
     
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    Avenatti was being promoted on national TV as a candidate for President of the United States by the Democrat left media, including CNN and MSNBC, and if I recall correctly, others as well. Wow.
     
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    Leave the comedy to the liberals.

    These cartoons are insufferable.
     
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    Some people are expressing doubt in the polls ability to project anything a year or eighteen months out. As the article below observes, these were the same geniuses that saw Hillary Clinton as unstoppable.

    Landslide polls spark angst: These geniuses saw Clinton as 'unstoppable'

    Democrats and Republicans alike are skeptical of early polls predicting a landslide victory for Democrat Joe Biden over President Trump on Election Day 2020.

    To Trump and Republicans, the polls are fake news and no more reliable than surveys predicting Hillary Clinton would be elected president in 2016. Some Democrats are equally skeptical, warning their party not to buy into the early data.

    “These same geniuses all predicted that Hillary Clinton was unstoppable and inevitable,” said Chris Kofinis, a Democratic pollster. “Anyone who believes that the Democratic candidate is headed for a landslide victory right now is doomed to repeat the tragic history of 2016,” Kofinis said. “It’s a fundamental mistake for anyone to believe that reality can be projected or predicted based on these polls this far out from the general election.”

    The doubts surrounding polls underscore the degree to which confidence in the polling industry collapsed in 2016, when much of the public was blindsided by Trump’s victory.​

    It should be noted that they have waited until Joe Biden's numbers have already collapsed to a significant degree before offering these very bold observations.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    The debate lineup is great.

    Warren gets to rule night #1. She's up there with essentially a bunch of nobodies and Beto.

    Night #2 is great because it pits Bernie and Biden early, which will make for good fireworks.

    I'm also super selfishly happy that Yang made night #2 because that gives him an exponentially higher chance of getting a spot on camera next to the big dogs.

    Just fantastic news all around.
     
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    Biden, Sanders, Buttigieg to debate; Warren on separate night

    There’s still a silver lining for Warren, the highest-profile candidate in the first night of the debates. Her spot means that she won’t have to compete for attention with other front-runners, potentially amplifying her voice on stage.

    Also debating on the first night are former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas), Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, former Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.), Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) and Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.).

    The lineup sets up what is almost certain to be a heated showdown on the second night of the debates, pitting four of the highest-profile Democratic presidential hopefuls against one another in a two-hour spectacle.

    Aside from Biden, Sanders, Buttigieg and Harris, the second-night lineup includes Sens. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), as well as Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.), former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper, best-selling author Marianne Williamson and tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang.
     
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    Avenatti declared he wasn't running something like 6 months ago. He'll probably even lose his voting franchise before the general election. Mojo, you've participated a lot in this thread trying to have a real conversation about who is going to prevail as the Democratic candidate. At this point, it's more likely to be me than Avenatti. I know conservatives would like to hang this scumbag onto the Democratic Party, but this isn't serious -- his presidential aspirations died as soon as they were born.
     
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    Apparently, they were arranged by height... :p

     
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    I agree.

    But it is a measure of how deranged these people have become that they ever promoted him as a presidential candidate for the Democrats. While Avenatti's presidential prospects are completely gone, as you say, the level of derangement that motivated the Democrat left media's promotion of him as a candidate has not diminished at all. In fact, it may even be worse now than it was then, if that is even possible.

    This is a big factor in this presidential contest and it deserves to be discussed and remembered.
     
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    I think you grossly exaggerate the enthusiasm for Avenatti as a candidate. He got a couple spots early in MSM because he was an already recognized name and they knew they could get some clicks from people who wanted to see him 'go low.' That doesn't mean the people who were tuning in were seriously considering him as a candidate. If Joe the Plumber declared, he'd probably get a couple of TV appearances too before the novelty wore off.
     
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    "Angst", "triggered", "fake news", "SJW", "feminist"...... I am trying to think of some of the other buzz words that the Republicans love to use to fire up their supporters.
     
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    You started a thread about the 2020 Democratic primaries and have basically used it as a toilet for your diarrhea brained D-tier memes and rage posts.

    You really would improve the thread if you just left altogether. The adults are trying to have a conversation in between your fingerpainting with human feces.

    POOP
     
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    Do you seriously think he's sincerely debating here?
     
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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

    Polls hit it right on the head. Clinton by 2-3 points on average, which is exactly what happened.

    So, given that your average 2020 Democrat is smashing Trump all across the Mid-West by 7+ points, you should probably sit up and take notice.

    Pollsters unscientifically pontificating is one thing, but polls are hardly ever wrong (and were very much correct in 2016). Ignore them at your own peril.
     
  19. MojoMan

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    Show us the polls from 18 months out in the Clinton race. That is the equivalent of what we are talking about now. Many people are not buying it. If you are smart, you will not put too much stock in these numbers, either. They are interesting to talk about, but the chances of there not being a lot of movement between now and then is probably pretty close to zero.
     
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    Of course there will be movement. But you do not want to be on the losing side of a poll. Ever.

    "There's still a lot of time left" is a totally different argument than "FAKE NEWS ZOMG SO BIGLY WRONG".
     

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