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Putin's Useful Idiot At Work

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Dec 30, 2016.

  1. JuanValdez

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    They should definitely be talking about the nuclear weapons treaties, really regardless of collusion.
     
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    hey, maybe they will be able to leverage the work with north korea?
     
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    Don't mention me in your boring posts.
     
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    Don't expect that to be an honest discussion, if it happens at all.

    Both Russia and the US have been accusing each other of breaking Regan's & Gorbachev's groundbreaking treaty for years, if not technically, at the very least in spirit (and justifiably so). But rather than negotiate these things, and de-escalate the tension, great peacemaker and human walrus John Bolton was sent to unilaterally pull out of it. In the wake of the misinformation campaign of Collusion Illusion, it got cheers, and that was by design.

    Turning voter animosity for Trump into manufactured consent for war and giant increases in defense spending, as well as raising public trust in the nation's security services that had only recently been caught lying about killing civilians and spying on Americans inside the US, and creating distrust for whistleblowers and journalists who published them made this all possible.

    For the Democratic faithful that treat politics as a sports rivalry, it may have been about Trump, but for the discredited people who brought us "Weapons of Mass Destruction" and "They Hate Our Freedom" and their fellow travelers in career positions in the security apparatus and extended private contracting arms of the military who suddenly got "woke" and joined the Two Minutes Hate with them, it was all about maintaining the status quo, and getting the NeoCon train back on the tracks.

    For those that called people like Seymour Hersh, Stephen F. Cohen, Matt Taibi, Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, and others "Putin-puppets" and "traitors" for pointing out inconsistencies in the hysterical narrative, and asking people to take a step back and think more critically, and instead lent credence to bullshit agiprop like this, all I can say is thanks for being complicit in making any attempt at nuanced political discourse all but impossible, for making the world a dumber, more dangerous place, and for giving Trump a leg up in 2020.
     
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    So he was an unwitting idiot. I guess that's better than active collusion...
     
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    Kentucky? That isn't the state represented by mconnell and rand paul? Hmm...

     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    Read thread...

     
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    John Sipher, former CIA contributed this article to JustSecurity.org... really well written, and covers so much its impossible to adequately excerpt it. Well worth a full read...
    Is Trump a Russian Agent?: Explaining Terms of Art and Examining the Facts
    https://www.justsecurity.org/63660/...laining-terms-of-art-and-examining-the-facts/
     
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    Now that we know there was no collusion, can we change the title of this thread like you change mine @justtxyank ?
     
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    That's not actually what the report said.
     
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    Of course he's not a Russian agent. He is, however, financially beholden to financial institutions who are knee deep in money laundering for the Russian Mob. He straight up asked Russia to spy on a Presidential candidate. This is just fact. Go look up Deutsche Bank et al...

    You can support him all you want, but you really should admit just who he is.
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    "No collusion"...

     
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    #1178 adoo, Apr 23, 2019
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    Part two of trump's efforts to minimize or absolve himself of working with the russians...

    (1) trump lawyer rudy says "nothing wrong with taking info from russians"
    (2) trump adviser and son-in-law jared says "russians bought a few facebook ads"
    (3) worse, same adviser and son-in-law says the investigation was worse than russia's attack on America's election...
     
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