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[Official] Joe 2020

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  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

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    But it wasn’t our only choice. We voters had too many choices over the summer and fall to choose from and that led to just going with the guy with the greatest name recognition, goodwill, and credibility of all 20+ choices.

    I chose Biden myself on Super Tuesday because it was a calculated risk. Will it pay off... I don’t know. Biden gaffs are built into the risk assumptions though with voters.

    But this idea that we don’t have enough choices is crazy. The problem is probably that we had too many choices and smart leaders should have worked better with each other to help convince people to rally around a better candidate during the process.

    However it does look like we are probably going to be getting a really good vp standing next to Biden that’ll be someone we can be much more confident in to say smart intelligent things and be more proud of. Biden would be smart to make that announcement sooner rather than later and announce a cabinet top starting with Samantha Powers as Secretary of State.
     
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  2. EddieWasSnubbed

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    I agree with you, in large part, I'm just upset with the whole primary process. Because of where I live, I essentially have no say in who the candidate is.

    I just don't know how the American people can fail so hard two elections in a row when it comes to Repubs AND Democrats. Makes me question my fellow voters.
     
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  3. dobro1229

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    Trust me I question myself. I first supported and donated to Warren. My wife was all about Bernie. I flip flopped around candidates all summer and fall and ultimately felt like Biden had the best set of policy positions to appeal to enough people that Bernie did not. I felt he had the goodwill too that could last through a rigorous election period that someone like Mayor Pete might not be able to take.

    But yeah... I’ll own up to being one of those voters. There’s a lot of us that wonder why with so many options why it ended up with Biden. To be fair though, I think Biden is a fair choice although we can certainly question it... looking back it’s inexcusable that Bernie and Hillary were our only two choices in 2016. I feel like if even Warren was on that debate stage with Hillary she would have been able to “Bloomberg” her in a way that exposes how truly unpopular she would be in a general election. Even Tulsi Gabbard, as annoying as she was, really did well to test other nominees in a way that helped show how they would fair against Trumper talking points.

    But yes... I deserve and welcome the criticism in the candidate selection process for sure.
     
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    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    Lost in the “YOU AINT BLACK” Friday was Biden’s bold faced lie that the NAACP has endorsed him every time. They’ve actually never endorsed him, according to their press release this morning. Fact check.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Not a liberal, regardless of my posts
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    Yep... we should applaud the NAACP for speaking out and making their position clear

    https://www.naacp.org/latest/naacp-blast-trumps-state-union-false-dangerous-narrative/

    https://www.naacp.org/latest/naacp-condemns-senate-vote-donald-trump-impeachment/
     
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    I must have touched a nerve (truth typically does that) with bobrek. He completely dodged Biden’s lie.
     
  7. Nook

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    This is part of who Joe Biden the candidate is.

    He will make gaffes and at times stick his shoe in his mouth when he isn’t properly focused or prepared.

    He also has a line of positive traits as well.

    He is fortunate to be running against a monster, but he needs to stay focused if he wants to win.

    Yesterday was a mixed bag for Biden. It also came out that Tara Reade has been lying about who she is again. She lied about her degree, she lied about being a professor for years. She lied about her basic credentials when testifying as an expert witness under oath. Most likely multiple defendants in domestic violence cases will be able to appeal their cases now. Ms. Reade will likely be facing criminal charges for lying under oath resulting in convictions. Her prominent attorney has dropped her now and she is shopping for another one. This all comes after a trail of people coming forward in the last 10 days claiming she lied and conned them.
     
  8. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

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    I find it odd that as someone who is pretty tuned in I still didn’t see anything in the MSM about the Tara Reid news. Wall to wall coverage of two other things though... Trumps press conference and Biden’s you ain’t black comment.

    Just let that be a wake up call that the so-called “liberal media” will do Biden no favors this fall.
     
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  9. bigtexxx

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    Also not to be lost in Joe’s “YOU AINT BLACK” Friday was his use of the word ain’t. He clearly used it to try to fit in with Charlemagne da God and his audience. It’s demeaning and talking down to the black audience.
     
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    You're the kid that tattled on other kids when you thought they were doing something wrong in school, huh?


    Seems like a lot of Trump supporters are that way the last day or so....
     
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    Biden could say stuff like this once a week and he still wouldn’t get replaced. You know that infuriates Trump and his fans who have really been amping up their trolling lately in hopes that he will.
     
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    most republicans don’t want Biden replaced. He’s a buffoon who has lost significant cognitive ability and a very weak candidate.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Not a liberal, regardless of my posts
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    How so? I agreed with you that The NAACP was right in speaking the truth. (Also...i won't be voting for Biden or Trump)

    ETA.... and my first word in response to your post was literally "yep"... you know....a word of agreement...
     
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    You don't clap back at the nominee for President of the U.S. and expect for any other politicians to do your show, I mean we are talking about the host of the freakin Breakfast Club.

    Charlemagne is no dummy and he handled himself well but he knows how to read the room and is not trying to score cheap point.
     
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    The MSM would look like they are piling on and victim shaming if they reported all of the Reade stuff that has come out.
     
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    #beWell Tara Reid

    2 half serious = 1 Full serious, right?
     
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    4 years of the left criticizing (rightfully so) Trump supporters for defending his ignorant actions.

    ...but Biden is ok. Trump says worse things.

    When did we reach this low in politics where Trump is the bar of acceptability.
     
  18. Ottomaton

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    When Trump became acceptable as the President to the majority of American voters.
     
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    Ah yes, this aggravating “new” low of comparing a candidate to the person he’s running against to show why he’s a better alternative.
     
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    He got in because voters in those critical November swing states supported him in the primaries. Most Dem candidates in the field can't vouch for that strength. Amy spoke to middle America but didn't appeal to them. Pete is too new and too untrusted.

    He was on life support early on so it wasn't bigly forced as it was with Hillary.

    Credit Trump the school girl for calling him sleepy, but he's authentic enough to appeal to Pennsylvania types. That might be all that matters barring a last minute progressive purity Purge.

    A lot a Trump's exclusive voters run on fear and desperation. If Biden can at least acknowledge them, that's half off Trump's energy.

    I'm not sure how he's going to unite the progressives. Wheels are falling off in America and dams be breaking. Paying due bills is neither sexy nor popular with the American people
     
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