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[OFFICIAL] Bernie Sanders for President thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Rocketman1981

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    What is sad that even Bernie has guilt for making money. The man with three homes, that flies in private jets while talking about global warming, a wife who made money and a big severance from the horrendous college administrator system as prices skyrocket worse than prescription drugs, and making millions off of selling the idea of communism.
    Promoting ideas and spending time with Soviets, Venezuelans and Cubans and now wants to infect the US with that virus of the brain.


    Yet he has to say is it a crime to write a good book? He as spent decades decrying wealth and now he sits as one of the top 1/2 of 1% of this country and top .01% of the world and abhors the top .0001%??

    Is it a crime to make a billion from a good company?

    They hypocrisy is just telling.

    Anyone that believes he is anything more than an old 1970's communist that eventually wants the government owning and controlling nearly every facet of American life is off their rocker.

    That failed idea that the government can normalize wealth died in the 20th century and it killed millions and millions before it died.

    I actually agree that big companies and people of wealth get favors and help in the system. But you don't give the government more
    power as its what allows the filth, you give it less in terms of regulations. A limited government cannot be used to help those in power stay
    there but a huge government bloated bureaucracy ensures those in power will stay there.
     
  2. Rocketman1981

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    Bernie Sanders is a Communist. Just admit it.

    He would have the government control all commerce and in their divine wisdom determine how to split it up
    among the people like a new intelligencia that makes decisions for dumb ordinary folks and evil people who
    create something.

    His constant visits to Cuba, talking up Hugo Chavez and all these other painfully misguided ideas are just wrong.

    Communism and socialism are just stupid ideas that will benefit a few people today at the expense of a nation in
    the future.

    Anyone that believes he would be satisfied with raising taxes on the rich has their head up their ass.
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    It's not. Honestly he could be the richest man in America and it wouldn't matter to the policies he's advocating. If anything, it would highlight the sincerity of his convictions. Why people expect socialists to take a vow of poverty is beyond me.

    That's what a small government candidate might do. Sanders' worldview sees the machinery of government as the best lever for solving problems, not philanthropy. So I wouldn't expect him to donate a bunch of money like some moral majority candidate. I'd expect him to pay his taxes and have the government run programs.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Do you really think the wealth accumulation that Bernie is talking about is a 70+ year old man accumulating a few million over a course of a lifetime? Really?
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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    I hope you are able to increase your understanding.
     
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    This is the biggest disconnect to me. Why do people on the right point out his lack of charity as some sort of hypocrisy? Same goes for Beto.
     
  7. Nook

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    Again, it is all about message.

    I am well aware that financially Sanders has very little in common with someone that has the wealth of a Donald Trump. Likewise I am sure that Sanders has turned down countless opportunities to become more wealthy.

    However, to large segments of the population someone having a couple million dollars makes then extremely wealthy.

    The optics are bad, and he is going to be viewed as somewhat of a hypocrite by voters that otherwise would consider voting for him.

    The poor and lower middle class should be firm supporters of Sanders, but he has to know how to relate.

    He appears to have made some real progress in Michigan and has a good level of support.
     
  8. Nook

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    I have asked before......... and the general answer is "You want to take away from me to give to someone else, then you sure as hell better be giving away your own stuff first."

    There are a lot of working class people that believe the Democrats are hypocrites in that way.

    It is something that Sanders will have to address, which is why his message is so important......... his response to his book sales was a disaster.
     
  9. Rocketman1981

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    The lack of charity or willingness to overpay their taxes is the hypocrisy. Screaming about others not paying their share of income
    to help others and not doing so oneself is the definition of hypocrisy.

    If Bernie had his way the government would control a majority of commerce and re-distribute the funds as the government sees
    fit to 'normalize' wealth.

    That flawed idea should have died in the 20th century.

    Again, he may have this progressive socialist nonsense title out but he is at the end a communist.

    How did those economies turn out?

    A few very, very rich people in government, lots of killing and gulags and jailing and totalitarianism.
     
  10. larsv8

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    Yea, not really.

    Combining policy positions and personal choices makes no sense.

    I support people having the right to own a gun, but I don't own a gun. Doesn't make me a hypocrite.
     
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  11. ThatBoyNick

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    Lmao
     
  12. justtxyank

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    It's also just stupid and is not hypocrisy.

    I think autism research needs more money. Everyone should give money to it. Therefore I should give all of mine to it? Sanders wants to turn on a water hose and the right thinks he's a hypocrite for not pouring out his cup.
     
  13. ThatBoyNick

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    Yes it does you god damn commie lovin hypocrite.
     
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    Is this a joke? You think that someone who is calling for higher marginal tax rates on the wealthy is a hypocrite for not voluntarily overpaying on his own taxes? That makes no sense.
     
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    Shortly after he fires Pompeo and Bolton?
     
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    Sounds good to me...
     
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    And your solution is? What was your endgame with communism, something along the lines of "control of most by a few"? Looks like the graph above is trending in one direction.
     
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  18. fchowd0311

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    Conservatives at least the wealthy ones only think in terms of quarterly profits. They don't have the urge to project 10 to 20 years ahead.

    They don't understand that if this trend continues, a Bolshevik style revolution will eventually happen, not because I want it or wish for it, but because that's just the way things work when we trend in this direction.
     
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    Mueller concluded that Russia was pro Bernie as well.
     
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