Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

That's a lot of credit card debt, but if the ($1300 - $3250/month) payments were being made I don't think the cash amount itself would disqualify him from anything. Also, lots of employers seem to only look for bankruptcies as part of a broader background check. There are probably all kinds of white show law or professional services types making or potentially tracking $500 K - $1 MM per year with that kind of credit card debt, which would have had to be approved in the first place. Separately a credit report may categorize secured and unsecured debt differently, but they'll look at the cumulative load and lots of people have higher amounts than that.

 

his credit card debt was 65 to 200k.


his net worth was close to 0, it was something like 50k or something

his salary is 185k.

He handled his debt load by being "reimbursed by friends" whatever that mesns

That's pretty laughably bad financial planning from a guy who went to elite schools and who has mad e it his life work to ensure that predatory lenders are able to exert maximum harm on the less elite.

Basically it disqualifies him from ever being taken seriously (as does standing next to Trump on TV and talking about Trump's great respect for the judicial process)

The guy is hired help, hired to deliver wins for team R and, now that he's on the supreme, which has lower ethical requirements, he can start grifting more blatantly.

We cant stop this. we just need to remember it.

 

In fairness to Hatch, he's so obviously suffering age-related memory loss, he probably cannot remember past last week, let alone back to when Obama was President.


of course, even if he could, he'd still probably lie.

 

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Please join me on the launch pad as we board the LOLLERCOPTER and prepare for takeoff. If using a credit card for baseball games is the worst thing they've got on my boy Kavs, then I'm excited for his 30+ years of service on the Court. Meanwhile Obama was doing sleazy real estate deals with Tony Rezko to purchase his mansion in Chicago -- no issues at all with that financial management! Flash flood warning -- liberal tears are coming down rapidly!

GOOD DAY

 

LOL

What a grandstanding doofus.

 

So his credit card debt that he paid back is one of his biggest issues? Good choice orange man.

 

It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if this pick is blocked due to some of the issues being raised. Kavanaugh is probably the closest thing to a centrist that will be nominated. If this drags past November, the Republicans will more than likely increase their hold on the Senate making it easier to get a more conservative nominee through if Collins doesn't support it.

note: I am not saying Kavanaugh is a centrist but he is closer to Kennedy than Scalia

 

Realistically there's nothing the Democrats can do to stall the pick or block it, there will be a lot of whining and crying from those on the left, but honestly you shouldn't view it as anything more than a child throwing a temper tantrum.

 

It honestly worries me that people on the right think a stronghold on the Supreme Court is a good thing. Having 5 strongly partisans in any direction is not going to be good in the long run.

Believe it or not, some liberal ideas have helped the country. Crazy I know.

Or...you know...view as a party trying to protect their interest? Should they just vote for Kavanuagh because it is inevitable? No. They do represent people after all, not sure if you know that, but there are plenty of people that would vote them out of office if they voted Kavanaugh. I know it seems hard for some conservatives to understand that there are still liberals in the country.

Lol, why is everything against you whining or throwing a tantrum?

 

There's a way to do it with dignity, and there's the way they are going to go about it. No one is suggesting that they should be happy about the hole they dug themselves but it doesn't excuse the tantrums that are going to be thrown and the over the top rhetoric that is going to be used. Essentially I'm just arguing that the left should carry themselves as adults worthy of respect and that's not what I'm expecting out of them....as I've been given no reason to expect that from them over the past decade. It's made even more intolerable given that the whining and crying will be about the new court ending dreams of passing unconstitutional legislation such as de facto 2nd amendment repeals and eroding 1st amendment rights.

Now I'm sure the response to this will be "whataboutism", but it doesn't change anything I've said.

 

What is the dignified way to do it?

I honestly don't think there is anything they can do to get your respect so they really shouldn't waste the effort. The right didn't give a flip about respecting Obama and you all cheered that on so...

Which 1st amendment rights are they looking to erode?

Well, you weren't throwing objective facts at us Bobby. The feeling that the Democrats are whining and throwing tantrums is subjective, it's how you feel about the situation and how you choose to view it.

I think most that know politics realize that the Democratic Senators are Democratic senators for a reason, as such, rolling over for Trump's super right nominee does them no favors when they run for reelection.

....you mean like how democrats are anti-civil liberties, want to confiscate your guns, and erode 1st amendment rights?

 

The left shouldn't worry about my respect, what they should worry about is attempting to gain back the respect of the American people. Over the past decade they've managed to lose the house, the senate, the white house, and now they've further lost the SCOTUS due to their actions.....and instead of learning the lesson of the past decade, they keep doubling down by moving further and further left and being more and more unhinged and over the top.

Over the past several years the left have moved so far to the authoritarian left that ideas like free speech are increasingly seen as right wing. If they could get away with it, our friends on the fringe left would love to be able to pass hate speech legislation like they have in the UK and Canada. Unfortunately for our friends on the fringe left, they'll never be able to get their way due to the first amendment and a SCOTUS that will defend it.

Fair enough. I'll give it a bit more time so that there is a better sample of over the top rhetoric related to the SCOTUS pick before making that claim.

That's not over the top rhetoric, I honestly wish it was. Polls that were done a few months back showed that 39% of Democrats support a 2nd amendment repeal. In that same poll it showed that 82% of Democrats supported banning all semi-automatic weapons.

It's not just 2nd amendment either, in 2014, Democrats sought to restrict the 1st amendment when it came to certain political speech and in recent years the idea of hate speech laws to restrict what can be said have become increasingly popular on the left.

...so yeah, the modern left is very much anti-civil rights in that they are currently the only people seeking to repeal or seriously infringe upon multiple civil rights.....and that's not even touching on the rise of Democratic Socialists who quietly advocate for the destruction of capitalism and an eventual end to private ownership.

I would hope we'd both agree that things are getting to crazy and we need to see a return to something approaching the center because it's not the centrists that advocate for these kinds of things.

 

Well, they had one bad election cycle, not sure I'd be so eager to hold their funeral. Time will tell.

Man, I've yet to see anyone pass hate speech legislation.

I do know that Matal V Tam, the last big case on the issue, all justices agreed. I'm not sure free speech is something you should worry about or that this is something the liberal judges are far apart from with the conservative ones.

I do agree that 2nd amendment repeal is a radical position

I don't doubt those polls at all honestly but how many conservatives are ready to overturn Roe v Wade, roll back Affirmative Action, and even overturn Obergfell? The splits are about the same, I can confidently say that, to me that stuff is just as dangerous and also a trample on rights.

What the country needs is a 3rd party that isn't afraid to muck things up and become a hurdle for any party taking too much control. A 3rd party would keep both honest. Not sure that is happening anytime soon, unfortunately.

 

No, that's not really true, losing the House, Senate, and White House was something that happened over 5 election cycles. It's not just one bad election cycle, it's a pattern of bad election cycles and the left has moved further to the left after each failure only leading to more failure. That's my point. It's time for sanity to prevail and a movement back towards the center.

When it comes to a 3rd party, our system doesn't really support 3rd parties, they either replace one of the 2 dominant parties or they quickly die.

 

Probably true, but court packing will become more and more on the agenda.