Is "Dwight needs a post-up game" seriously the only thing you can say?

Best player in the NBA at playing Pick'n'Roll...doesn't want to run Pick'n'Roll.

'Nuff said.

 

Black set the best screens.

 

Does Dwert even lift breh?

 

Now that you are saying this. Dwight's blocked shot number has been in decline for two straight years.

Per game: 5 years ago, 2.4; last year 1.8; this year 1.4
Per 36 minutes: 5 years ago, 2.3; last year 1.9; this year 1.6
Per 100 possessions: 5 years ago, 3.3; last year 2.7; this year 2.2

 

We do see Dwight's decline on defense. How many games have we said that Dorsey gives more effort on D than Dwight?

 

You guys do realize Dwight is a max player correct? What other max player in the league has such a questionable offensive game? You guys keep talking about people like Tyson Chandler and comparing D12 to other centers. Tyson Chandler is the 5th OPTION ON HIS TEAM. I would be perfectly fine with him being a defensive guy who can block shots and defend at an elite level, IF he wasn't our second option and a MAX PLAYER

 

Are we paying the salaries? Because if we are, I am pissed off!

The OP makes a decent point. The Howard we've seen the last 20+ games is not the Dwight Howard we know he can be - for various reasons (injuries, effort, play design).

If he plays like he did last year versus Portland, this conversation is moot.

Last night, you could tell the referees got in his head and took him out of the game early. He made his usual dumb push-off decisions, but the refs don't allow Dwight the same contact as his opponent. I'm not sure how to solve that one.

 

How many points do Tyson Chandler and DeAndre Jordan average? How many points does Dwight Howard average?

How much do Chandler and Jordan get paid? How much is Dwight getting paid?

I've said it many times before. Dwight will post up to get his all-star offensive numbers, to the detriment of this team.

 

The problem with guys like Jordan and Chandler is that while they are super efficient, they only give you 10 points on 6 shots. That means you have to get points somewhere else.

 

Hmm, well, I was interested, so according to Basketball-Reference.com, here are the three of them for 2014-2015:

Points per 100 Possessions:

DeAndre Jordan: 15.1
Salary: $11,440,124

Tyson Chandler: 17.6
Salary: $14,598,888

Dwight Howard: 25.4
Salary: $21,436,271

Just trying to be useful. I have no real commentary here.

 

It's not really a problem, though. If they only demand the ball 6 times, that opens up the entire court.

Dumping it down to Dwight 85% of the time just doesn't work.

 

Does anyone doubt that Dwight could be a 20/14 player if he played the pick and roll and crashed the boards like he used to?

It is beyond frustrating watching this guy throw away his gifts trying to be something he is so desperately far from ever being. First thing that needs to happen is McHale needs to go to Dream and tell him to quit filling Dwight's head with nonsense about how he should be an offensive god on the court.

 

I can't deny that I have been one of those incorrigible fools who keeps complaining about Dwight's post game... I wouldn't complain about it if I didn't see it, and I never wanted us to go down there to him, but I did want him to improve his post game.

You make a good point, though, OP, that this is probably not really necessary. Especially given the other pieces on this team. I've seen the light... F*** Dwight's post game. Let him play his game.

It is strange how we ran the pick and roll way more with Yao and Mac than we do with Harden and Howard even though Yao's post game was *leagues* better than Dwight's... I guess that's in part because Yao was able to pop, and didn't always have to roll.

 

He was getting those numbers without posting up or having any semblance of a post game in Orlando. I think the OP's point is that if we just let Dwight play his game and play to his strengths, he will fit in very well here and still put up great offensive numbers on lobs and garbage cleanup.

 

Good thread but:

Dwight needs a post-up game.

 

What does that mean,"open up the entire court"? If those guys take 6 shots, then a less efficient player gets more shots. If Dwight gets 6 shots, who is getting the other 5? Possibly Dmo, but he's unproven in that role. Otherwise, we don't have a lot of options.

I'm not advocating for Dwight to post up. He's incapable of doing it because he can't shoot. Reducing him to Jordan/Chandler just won't cut it, though.

 

This thread needs more views and love. Bumping back to the front page.

 

Hate to say this, but Dwight is NOT a max player.

 

I disagree that he wasn't posting up in Orlando. He had no post game yes, but he was the focal point of their offense. With Nelson, Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, and Courtney Lee spacing the floor all they had to do was dump the ball to Dwight and wait for the double to come. Can't exactly do that anymore since Dwight is no longer as spry as he previously was, and we our shooters aren't that great.

And therein lies the problem. The game Dwight wants to play is NOT to his strengths.