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Ignoring midrange will kill us

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OTMax, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Contributing Member

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    Tl;Dr version of this post - the Rockets increase their chances of winning when they make shots.

    Thanks.

    The Rockets offense should be judged by shot quality.

    Are they taking a good ratio of open shots to non-open shots?

    Are they being taken by the right people in the right places? (Wing corner 3 vs a Capela dribble up 3)

    Are they limiting turnovers per possession?

    Are they creating transition? (which really relies on defense but whatever.)

    If all of these things are good, regardless of the outcome or make or miss - the offense is doing it's job in terms of design, and unless they sign LaMarcus Aldridge tomorrow - your prescription does nothing.

    Tautology is tautological...because it is.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Agreed
    IF they are 35% from Midrange
    and 36 % from 3 .. . hell naw don't take any mid range

    Even if they were 40 from midrange. . . you can live with their 36 from three

    Rocket River
     
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  3. Houston112

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    my free-agent crush derrick rose shoots the mid-range
     
  4. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Agreed. Teams lose by being forced to being something they are not.
     
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  5. OTMax

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    This shows your bias and unwillingness to take this seriously, so why you even bother to post here? Just dumb.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    I don't know, why do we pay attention to flat earth people like Kyrie Irving?
     
  7. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    define highly skewed? you mean the points we put up are fake???
     
  8. LosPollosHermanos

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    Done arguing here.
     
    #428 LosPollosHermanos, Apr 24, 2018
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    Are we dead yet?
     
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  10. vlaurelio

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    Who is the strongest/best 1 on 1 defender that hardens gonna face in this western POs?

    If you dont have an answer different than Butler then you most efficient players and shots haters gonna be very disappointed

    Its going to be pnrs, layups, lobs, and passes to the open 3s all day
     
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  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Sorry, who is midrange? Are they offended we are ignoring them?
     
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  12. durvasa

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    I haven't been following this thread. 65 wins later, this is still a thing we're worried about? The Rockets have proven that when they are on their game they can get good shots against any defense.
     
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    I like how we play now. We still live and die by threes and layups but we actually give our players freedom and I’ve noticed we’ve taken a lot more mid range shots
     
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  15. topfive

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    Kate Upton relies way too much on looking hot. If she doesn't learn to cook a decent meal every now and then, no man will ever want her.
     
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  16. Swiss Roll

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    I'm fine with some midrange, as long as the only guy taking them is CP, who shoots +50% from there.

    We didn't get the #1 offense ever by taking bad shots.
     
  17. donkeypunch

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    Its all because of CP3. Hes the one always stopping the bleeding when we go on scoring droughts with his in the lane jumpers. We were way too predictable in the past with teams knowing we were trying to drive or shoot 3s and his midrange has kept defenses honest. I always like the philosophy of Moreknees strategy but its like giving your war plan to opposing forces.
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    edit: double post
     
  19. LosPollosHermanos

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    Loved the 3 ball yesterday and how we tossed in a bit of midrange here and there to keep the defense on its toes. Offense last night was orgasmic.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...itzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomnba-topstories
    OFF TO THE RACES
    By the time the first quarter came to an end with the Rockets up 39-22, a most unexpected development had emerged. The Rockets, whose offense these past few years was built almost exclusively on three-pointers and shots at the rim, were mastering the midrange shot.


    Playoff basketball – not to mention the intimidating presence of Jazz big man/likely Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert in the middle – has a way of forcing change because of the high stakes. And so, D’Antoni’s Rockets decided to break protocol and take what the Jazz defense was offering.

    Never mind that the Rockets broke the NBA record for three-pointers attempted for the second consecutive season (3,470, with second-place Brooklyn at 2,924). And forget how that reputation remained intact during the first seven games of the playoffs (40.9 three-point attempts per game, with Portland second at 32.3). The wrinkle came inside the arc.

    As tracked by Kevin O’Connor of The Ringer, 12 of their 39 first-quarter points were from the midrange. There were floaters from the free-throw line and pull-ups inside the arc – rarities on any other Rockets night. And there were the sloppy Jazz, giving up six first-quarter turnovers to Houston’s zero while allowing the Rockets to hit 16 of 26 shots and shooting just eight of 21 themselves.

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    Houston pushed the lead to 70-40 at halftime, but this wasn’t a case of the Rockets stars taking over. Six players had at least eight points by then, with Eric Gordon leading the way (17 points). By the end, Harden (25 points, 12 assists) and Gordon (25 points on eight of 13 shooting) had done the heaviest lifting.
     
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  20. onreego

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    Favorite part of the post game that seemed to get unnoticed was when CP3 was talking about his midrange, "..you know James and Eric like to go in there and dunk but I just choose not to. My Midrange is my layup" something along those lines.
     

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