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Hardens offseason weight is the best indicator of how he plays

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheRealist137, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

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    2015 offseason, Harden looks fat -> terrible disappointing season

    2016/2017 off seasons, Harden looks in shape -> great seasons

    2018 offseason, Harden looks fat again -> harden plays poorly again.

    At this point just monitor Hardens weight in the offseason and adjust your expectations accordingly.
     
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  2. Reeko

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    Plays poorly? He has been good, just not MVP level good like last year.

    CP3 and EG’s huge dropoffs are far more concerning
     
  3. Blurr#7

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    Naw it’s Hardens fatness causing Gordon to brick shots every game and CP3 looking 53.
     
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    Thing is Harden has to be at an MVP level for the Rockets to even compete. Every year Rockets were at the top of the standings, Harden should have been the MVP.
     
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    Cleverly disguised James Harden is fat thread.

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  6. aroundtheblock2

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    Harden does appear out of shape to me.
     
  7. aliadiere25

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    Top scorer in the league, 4th in assists and 5th in steals is playing poorly.

    I'm done.
     
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    If Gordon and Paul were shooting reasonably harden would be averaging 15 assists a game .
     
  9. DreamShook

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    Refs also not calling any fouls for Harden too.
     
  10. Reeko

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    that’s too much of a burden for 1 dude...this ain’t MJ or prime Bron

    Harden’s “poor play” would be a career year for all but a select few players in this league

    for the most part, Harden is carrying his weight this year...the turnovers are way too high and his defense has slipped, but we got CP3 out here looking like he should be getting paid half of what he’s making at best for most of the year and EG shooting Ricky Rubio percentages...they’ve been far bigger disappointments

    if they were playing like they’re supposed to we wouldn’t be in the position we’re in
     
  11. hakeem94

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    hes been awesome this entire year...he just needs to stop with unforced turnovers and forced 3s...its seems they mostly happen when he is gassed
     
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    If you guys think this is bad we would be substantially worse without James out there.
     
  13. Texanasiafan

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    Stop using his weight being the excuse,

    I have seen fat asses like CC Sabathia and Bartolo Colon had played harder and run harder than him.
     
  14. DreamShook

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    It isn't. Harden is that good and doesn't get the respect he deserves because of his trash performances in the playoffs and unwillingness to play defense all the time.

    If Harden was serious.. really serious... he could do all the things.

    its probably why a lot of us here are so frustrated.
     
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    How about he's not 100% healty? I remember cyberx said in the Butler thread that the Rockets were trying hard and kinda desperate to get Jimmy cause they knew James hastring was going to be a problems this season or something similar...maybe that's why he's not as aggressive and can't finish as well as he usually did...
     
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    :D

    Bartolo would definitely bring the ball up faster than James.

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    Need to send this very important analytic to Morey ASAP.
     
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    Yea, it definitely could be that. I donno what it its, but I feel like his handles in iso situations arent as sharp for some reason, dont know what that has to do with the hamstring though haha
     
  19. Reeko

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    it is tho...u just said he has to play at an MVP level just for the Rockets to even compete

    even MJ needed Scottie and Bron needed Wade/Bosh and Irving/Love...Morey has given Harden dumbass Dwight and aging CP3

    Harden isn’t blessed with amazing athleticism and stamina...it’s a miracle he’s become as good as he is because nobody saw this coming

    there’s only so much 1 man can do
     
  20. Vivi

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    I think not having the right feeling when you move around etc can make you feel kinda uncomfortable in making some plays, for Chris might be same with all the odd/dumb turnovers he had so far this season...make no mistake, i'm not throwing this out to make excuses for him/them, i really hate when James plays lazy/careless and he always had these kind of moments but, just saying...
     
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