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Harden can't run point guard position. Bring him back to SG

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by koopa, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. koopa

    koopa Member

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    Let's be honest here guys. Harden can't run point with the amount of turnovers he gets per game. Thus they need a new pass first point guard in the mold of Chris Paul who limits turnovers and gets many assists. Only Westbrook is allowed to run point and get that many turnovers as he avgs triple doubles every game.
     
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    Yep 55 wins and led the league in assists widely accepted he was the best point in the league. Finished first all nba team......He sucks. You moron
     
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    Yes, 10th greates offense of all time.

    MAKE CHANGES
     
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  4. koopa

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    He also led the league in turnovers... it wasn't the deciding factor in the wins. It's not as impressive as it seems if he avgs 11 assists with 6 turnovers per game me hombre ricardo
     
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    Yet another 'holic username, this one revived from dormancy? :p
     
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    Kawai averages more turnover per dribble than Harden
     
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    i agree that we need help with playmaking. its cool he can put up thos enumbers but he really shouldnt, esp with that efficiency.

    i dunno what the hell is going on with lou, eg, bev, ryan and ariza. coupled with mda harden shouldnt need to avg so many assists. i think thats more on harden hogging and mda not doing his job.

    but the only thing that matters now is a 2nd star player. if we cant get paul or another pg then we shouldnt keep focusing on anothe rplaymaker.
     
  8. koopa

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    It's about the assists to turnovers ratio. That's what constitutes a great point guard
     
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    Got it, on the phone with Dan Tony right now now adjusting our strats. Thanks!
     
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    let's be honest, time to bring Dwight Howard home.
     
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  11. ricardo1979

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    So what? nash was also turnover prone but he is regarded as a all time great playmaker. Harden was a monster last season as a point and I DARE SAY HE HAD A CAREER YEAR AS A POINT GUARD but lets take him backwards and place him at SG..
     
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    Harden is at his best when he's RESTED.

    Getting CP3 would take alot of weight off of Hardens shoulders, while they both switch roles on and off ball throughout the game. It'd be a very dynamic fit, especially under D'Antoni.

    Stars win in this league. CP3 + Harden is a no-brainer if it's on the table.
     
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    If there is any chance you can get Paul you do it.. Harden and Paul sharing the load is crazy good
     
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  14. koopa

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    Pls don't compare pure pg legend Nash with harden point guard abilities. It will make you look foolish me amigo. Nash avg 11 assists with 2.9 turnovers per game. Harden 11 assists with 6 turnovers per game.
     
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    Stagger their minutes, too! Construct your rotations to where you have one of them (or both) on the court at all 48 minutes. That'd be insanely efficient offense.
     
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    Really? because MDA himself said Harden is better then Nash but you keep ranting and raving on. Exact words were Harden is on another level. Harden is regarded nash on steroids. Not to mention Nash had way, way more weapons. Harden on those suns teams we will be talking about 14 assists a game
     
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    it was just his first year as the full time point guard......he is doing fine

    and his turnover percentage was lower than John Stockton ever had in his career

    triple doubles ? it was only 2 extra rebounds which doesn't win you many games
     
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    Where is this proof that MDA called harden is on steroids? Assists to turnovers is the school of point guard efficiency. I'm a harden fan. FYI, I'm the guru if you listen to me you'll learn more. Did you not see hardens exhaustion in the playoffs when he threw the ball to bleachers over and over again which cost them the loss to kawhiless Spurs ?
     
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    he actually was awesome on the second night of back to backs
     
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    It was in press conference after a game. He was asked where does Harden rank as the players you coached and he mentioned the best and reporter asked better then Nash? he said yes on another level. . But you keep drumming the bankrupt beat. You need to get a life. Starting a dumbass thread after Harden was accepted as the best point this season. He had his best year EVER BUT A MORON LIKE YOU WITH SOME KIND OF AGENDA wants to take him and the team backwards. MORON!
     
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