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Dwight Howard traded to Charlotte

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jun 20, 2017.

  1. daywalker02

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    Dwight can still be useful. And the Hornets aren't lookin shabby.

    Kemba
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  2. Easy

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    Is Miles the good Plumlee or the bad one? I always confuse the two.
     
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    There are 3 of them in the league now and there are 2 bad ones. Odds are good he's one of the bad ones.
     
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  4. daywalker02

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    Plums go bad. Mason Plumlee is the top guy.
     
  5. Raz

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    Damn. Atlanta would rather take the trash contract of Plumlee ($37.5 until 2020) and trade down in Draft picks than keep going with Dwight ($47.3 until 2019). That's embarrasing in so many ways. For Dwight.

    Guess that pretty much means Millsap is gone, too. Good call for the Hawks, this team would have gone nowhere.
     
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  6. J.R.

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...awks-charlotte-hornets-deal-dwight-howard-nba

    The deal
    Hornets get: Center Dwight Howard, No. 31 pick in 2017 draft
    Hawks get: Guard Marco Belinelli, center Miles Plumlee, No. 41 pick in 2017 draft

    Atlanta Hawks: D
    That the Hawks would be interested in moving Howard less than a year after signing him makes sense. Atlanta's preseason excitement about adding more interior presence to an offense that was perimeter-oriented with Al Horford at center proved short-lived. Howard was mostly in the way on offense, to the point where he played just 17 minutes total in the fourth quarter of the Hawks' six-game, first-round loss to the Washington Wizards.

    Above and beyond that, Atlanta's direction as a franchise appears to have shifted following the arrival of new GM Travis Schlenk, who recently expressed skepticism about the Hawks' chances of re-signing All-Star power forward Paul Millsap -- a departure that would almost certainly send Atlanta into a rebuilding process. At age 31, Howard doesn't really fit into that.

    My expectation was that the Hawks could deal Howard for something close to cap relief, as ESPN's Kevin Arnovitz suggested as a best-case scenario on Twitter after the season. Clearly, that market didn't materialize, because this trade is far worse than cap-neutral for Atlanta. Plumlee's contract, with three years and $37.5 million remaining, is among the league's worst deals.

    On the plus side, the Hawks do realize modest cap savings of $3.4 million this coming season and about $11.3 million in 2018-19. But that's offset by the fact that Plumlee's contract runs a year longer than Howard's, meaning an extra $12.5 million on Atlanta's 2019-20 payroll.

    In contrast to Howard's offensive issues, he remains a useful player because of his strong paint defense and rebounding. (Early in the season, he seemed more comfortable coming out high to defend the pick-and-roll. Whether due to an injury or simply normal wear and tear, this skill faded by the postseason and was one of the reasons Howard struggled against the Wizards.)

    Based on Howard's wins above replacement player (WARP) and rating in ESPN's real plus-minus (RPM), I project him as about fairly paid next season and a little overpaid in 2018-19. By contrast, Plumlee brings little on-court value. After falling out of the Milwaukee Bucks' center rotation last season before he was traded to Charlotte, I project him right around replacement level the remainder of his contract, meaning he'll be paid in excess of $35 million more than he's worth over the next three seasons.

    So why, given the Hawks are taking on the worse contract and the worse players, are they the ones trading down in the second round too?

    If Atlanta was so desperate to be rid of Howard, the Hawks probably would have been better off just telling him not to report to the team and waiting out his contract than making this trade. Maybe no market ever would have materialized for Howard's services, but at least they'd be out of the deal a year sooner than they will be with Plumlee.

    Charlotte Hornets: A-
    If anyone's going to get something special out of Howard at this stage of his career, it's probably going to be Hornets coach Steve Clifford.

    Clifford was an assistant with the Orlando Magic when Howard was at the peak of his powers -- and it's easy now to forget just how dominant Howard once was -- and his system is similar to the one in which Howard excelled for former Magic coach Stan Van Gundy.

    In particular, Clifford's defense relies on dominating the defensive glass (a strength for Howard) and preventing easy baskets in the paint (that too) with a willingness to concede midrange scoring opportunities (and stopping those is Howard's biggest defensive weakness).

    Charlotte struggled to execute that scheme last season when starting center Cody Zeller was off the court. When Zeller played, the Hornets 102.7 defensive rating per NBA.com/Stats would have ranked tied for third in the league with the Utah Jazz. When Zeller sat, that increased to 108.6, which would have ranked 24th. Adding Howard to Zeller should ensure Charlotte 48 strong minutes of defense at center.

    The trick here will be whether 48 minutes are enough for Howard and Zeller. Though Zeller began his career as a power forward, he's proven more effective as a center, and a frontcourt pairing with both players probably wouldn't space the floor well enough to succeed offensively.

    From a resource standpoint, paying two centers who probably can't play together a combined $36 million next season and $37 million in 2018-19 isn't ideal. However, the Hornets should be able to manage things financially if they're careful. None of their core players are due raises until the summer of 2019, when Kemba Walker's bargain contract ($12 million for each of the next two years, one of the league's best values) and Frank Kaminsky's rookie contract expire. By that point, Charlotte will actually save money with this swap of Plumlee (who would still be making $12.5 million) for Howard, whose contract expires in 2019.

    Taking on a little extra salary does make things tight with the luxury tax this year. Assuming the Hornets decline Ramon Sessions' team option, they'll have about $9 million to spend on the last six spots on the roster. (Including, potentially, the non-guaranteed contracts of Treveon Graham, Johnny O'Bryant and Briante Weber.) Charlotte won't likely be able to spend its full non-taxpayer midlevel exception.

    At the same time, Charlotte's core eight-player rotation looks strong, and moving up to No. 31 improves the Hornets' chances of being able to draft a backup for Walker who can replace Sessions right away.

    Having posted a better point differential than three East playoff teams (including Atlanta) last season and gone 33-29 when Zeller was healthy (and therefore 3-17 without him), Charlotte already looked like a good bet to return to the playoffs next season. Adding Howard should improve the Hornets' chances substantially.​
     
  7. J.R.

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    Bye-bye Paul...


     
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    Would CP3 actually considering going back to the Hornets? Lol
     
  9. WFU Guy

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    There's no cap flexibility for the Hornets to make that happen.
     
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    CP3 is sick of playing with unskilled big man in the Floppers land but he turnaround and decide that he would want to play with a way more inferior version in the land of the Hornets?
     
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    DWIGHTMARE has come to Charlotte to play for Air Jordan.
     
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    OT: Could you imagine Howard playing on the same team with Michael Jordan. My god! Would he even stay with the team 25 games in the season? If Howard thought Kobe was bad to play on the same team with, could you imagine how he would've lasted with MJ.
     
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    When will Dwight look into the mirror and realize he has himself to blame for his odd career. 4 teams in 5 years for a guy like him in this day and age is beyond embarrassing
     
  15. heypartner

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    4 teams in 5 years? He was with the rockets for three.

    Do you exaggerate numbers in every single post you make, or are you just that bad with counting. Does it really hurt your case that much to accurately say, 3 teams in 3 years or 4 teams in 6.

    Hell, by your counting you could actually say 5 teams in 6 years.
     
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    Lou Williams to Charlotte for the #31.

    We get cap space and flexibility and another asset, while they get a legit 6th man and solid backup to Kemba.

    Who says no?
     
  17. ooooaaaah!

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    atleast for his sake when he left here, he signed a big contract for himself. pretty obvious it will be his last significant one. he'll be lucky to get a vet min by the end of this one, the way its looking
     
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    Someone mentioned Dwight may end up in China.... I'd pay to see that. His frustration flagerant fouls might inspire another godzilla remake.
     
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