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Dilbert's Scott Adams Explains "How To Know You're In A Mass Hysteria Bubble"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Do you understand the difference between moderates/left leaning individuals wanting to be more explicit in the condemnation of white supremacists because in the United States that notion isn't as black and white as Islamic terrorism. The US has an actual sizable contingent of white nationalist sympathizers who think there is a moral equivalency to Nazism and people triggered by Nazism.

    If during the Obama administration, there was a ISIS support rally in the middle of one of our towns, and someone bystanders were understandingly triggered and then the president proceeded to state that both sides are to blame, **** ya, I would want a clear message from our president that ISIS supporters don't have the same moral equivalency as people who are irked by them.

    There ain't two sides to this neo Nazis crap. The current American political paradigm for millions of Americans is that both sides are equally bad. That's a problem.

    That is why American liberals bring up white supremacism more because it's empirically and culturaly a larger problem for us. It's far more acceptable in the US to sympathize with white nationalist agendas than Islamic extremist agendas.

    Talking about how bad Islamic extremism is is nothing but circle jerking at this point.
     
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    The devastation caused by Muslim driven vehicles is on another level.
     
  3. fchowd0311

    fchowd0311 Contributing Member

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    Not in the country I reside and am a citizen of. What about you?
     
  4. Astrodome

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    Thank you travel ban.
     
  5. pirc1

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    so Scott Adams does not live a bubble?
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    I don't think much has changed in the rate of deaths by Muslim extremist drive bys before and after the travel ban.
     
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    It would be great to keep it that way.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Sure. Our immigration system from Muslim dominant regions were already highly vetted and based on merit. It was working. That's my point.

    Sit down. This might be a shocker to you. But the travel ban's sole purpose was to pander and appease a disgruntled base who though Obamacare would be repealed by now and the Night's Watch at the southern border would be fully installed. He wanted to make the appearance that he is working towards his campaign promises, one of them being the banning of Muslim immigration. It had nothing to do with actual national security.

    Somehow, I think you already know this.
     
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    Those Muslims are some bad hombres. Amirite?
     
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    There are an estimated 3.3 million Muslims in the United States. 5 % of these Muslims believe that suicide bombings "to defend Islam from its enemies" are rarely justified, 7 % say they are sometimes justified and 1 % say they are often justified. That's 165,000 Muslims in the USA who believe suicide bombings "to defend Islam from its enemies" can rarely be justified, 231,000 Muslims in the USA who believe they can sometimes be justified and still 33,000 Muslims in the USA who believe they are often justified.

    Estimates say there are between 5,000 and 8,000 KKK members in the USA.

    So that's 429,000 Muslims in the USA who think that under certain circumstances, suicide bombings "to defend Islam" are A-OK, vs. 5,000-8,000 Nazi assholes in ridiculous white Ghost costumes who carry torches.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Did have a massive brain dump recently and lost any sembelence of logical thinking?

    Dude, put some effort in understanding if your premise can be easily **** on before posting it.

    How can you compare KKK membership to what people answer on a fockin poll?

    Those 5000-8000 members are actually self labeled KKK mebers, many of whom are probably being monitored by the FBI and you want to compare those people to poll answers...

    Self labeled KKK members are akin to self labeled ISIS supporters. There are millions of Americans who aren't self labeled KKK members who still sympthize with white nationalism and are proud of the god damn Confederacy.

    I mean, look at those percentages. Let's use ATW logic:

    There are 330 million Americans. What do you think would be the best estimate for the percentage of Americans who would answer 'yes' to "Would you resort to solving Islamic extremism with nuclear weapons in the Middle East?". Do you think you would get a 5% hit rate for 'yes' to that question? I think it's safe to assume yes.

    330000000*.05= 16500000. So that's 16.5 million American citizens that are probably genocide advocates.

    That's how child like your logic is. It's absurd and stupid.
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    If I ever called you one(I don't recall), I apologize.
     
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    Bubbles? MojoMan is the new Bubble Boy.
     
  14. BigDog63

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    Putting you right in the middle of the bubble! ;-)
     
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    It is hard to listen to all the rhetoric and not think that most people on the left are of that opinion. And that isn't rhetoric from the right, but from the left, that I am talking about.

    Yes, it works both ways. In fact, a good discussion could probably be had around the media, on both sides, doing everything they can to create and perpetuate these bubbles. Much like a feeding frenzy, once the state is created, it's pretty easy to propogate and keep everyone in a frenzy over it. The media thrives on such things.

    FWIW, the left is quite good at pointing out the sources of this on the right, but seems of the belief it doesn't occur on their side. Which is... poppycock. CNN and MSNBC are basically copying the FOX model, but applying it to the left...and getting a commensurate ratings surge.
     
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    In an essay titled "How Trump Survives," the topic of hysteria is mentioned:

    "The media fixation hands Trump the initiative. Because so much of the news is based on his Twitter feed, he can create storylines — and spark confusion and outrage — with the push of a button. This ability lets him shift attention from current controversies by creating fresh ones. The ongoing hysteria lessens the cost to Trump of each bad story. It also allows him to portray media institutions and figures as insiders contemptuous of Trump voters and eager to overturn the result of a presidential election.

    "Trump survives not only because of the economy but also because of his opposition. He benefits from media bias as well as the lack of a credible Democratic alternative. If Democrats are associated with socialism, abolishing ICE, and single-payer health care, Trump lives to fight another day. Democrats — and most Republicans for that matter — have yet to grasp the ideas of political economy that Trump intuits: government that privileges American citizens through tight labor markets, border security, trade reciprocity, and entitlements.

    "Nor do Democrats understand that American populism is not simply economic. It is cultural. It has long been associated with traditional values and practices, an unreconstructed patriotism, and support for law and order. No matter how well Democratic proposals might test, the party will not succeed at the national level unless it addresses and mollifies the social concerns of the white working class. Pelosi, Schumer, and Sanders have not tried."
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/trump-survives-thanks-to-economy-and-detractors/

     
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    Trump survives because he is benefiting from the Obama economy. Once the economy starts to falter as his deficit spending and trade wars push interests rates to the point of a downturn, his support will drop to just his racist base which is about 1/3 of the country.
     
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    This is a very strange article. Much of it makes no sense. It talks about how Democrats are missing out because people favor law and order. The biggest opponent of law and order is the President who routinely attacks the FBI, Intel agencies, quite probably obstructs justice, surrounds himself with criminals and corrupt wealthy fat-cats. The article is ignoring the reality of what is happening.
     
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    The white working class became too entitled and didn't adapt to the 21st century. Trump merely lied to the white working class and told them what they wanted to hear.

    Essentially Trump won by being more dishonest. It's not advantageous to tell white working class mid west/rust belt voters that Germany and Korea builds over a million cars in right to work states.... or that the steel industry moved to right to work states...... it's much politically advantageous to lie and blame foreigners.
     
  20. Pole

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    duh!
     
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