1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[2017 NFL Draft/1-12] Deshaun Watson

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 27, 2017.

?

Do you like the decision to trade up & select Deshaun Watson?

  1. Yes

    90.8%
  2. No

    9.2%
  1. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,424
    Likes Received:
    51,866
  2. red5rocket

    red5rocket Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    9,510
    Likes Received:
    11,993
    Let’s go! Hopefully all Texans by 2030 lol

    #Dynasty
     
  3. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    22,968
    Likes Received:
    12,990
    Deshaun did so many good things from the pocket last year.

    I really feel like he won't digress much at all when the athletic ability leaves his body.
     
  4. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,424
    Likes Received:
    51,866
    Around the 19:00 mark

    https://audioboom.com/posts/6633264-super-bowl-mvp-von-miller-luke-kuechly-and-deshaun-watson-2-1-3

    Deshaun says:

    1) He was taking reps with the first team in training camp. (Media was saying he didn’t get many first team reps, which wasn’t true.)

    2) He says, "I truly wasn’t prepared to take that next step right out the gate. OB knew it, Rick Smith knew it, and I agreed." (Remember that story about Rick not wanting Watson to start game one? Why was he in that discussion?)

    From week 1 of training camp, O’Brien was walking around saying Watson was going to take this team to a Super Bowl one day.

    3) The sucking up from Florio is sickening.

    4) Repeated that he thinks his ACL happened vs. SEA.

    5) Selling Old Spice.

    6) "Great to have [O’Brien] back"… "I love watching Brady and hearing the stories and seeing how he got to where he is now." (Osweiler didn’t think there was anything for him to learn from Tom Brady.)
     
    Joshfast and J.R. like this.
  5. texian

    texian Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    552
    You really can't trust the narratives that emanate from the local sports talkers.


    So that story was true then, because O'Brien obviously thought he was ready 30 minutes later.


    And he was talking during camp like he wasn't going "to be here" after the season.
     
  6. texian

    texian Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    552
  7. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    107,242
    Likes Received:
    155,926
  8. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    30,964
    Likes Received:
    14,484
  9. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,424
    Likes Received:
    51,866
  10. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,424
    Likes Received:
    51,866
  11. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    28,036
    Likes Received:
    8,549
  12. HillBoy

    HillBoy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,612
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    I have my fingers crossed for DeShaun but this is the same medical staff that let JJ come back from back surgery after only 12 weeks and we all know how that turned out.
     
  13. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    48,424
    Likes Received:
    51,866
  14. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    28,036
    Likes Received:
    8,549
    But JJ didn' hurt his back this time.
     
  15. HillBoy

    HillBoy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,612
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Yes, that was the knee injury he suffered in the Kansas City game last year. I'm referring to his surgery for a herniated disk in June 2016 which was his 2nd back surgery that year. He was back playing by Sept only to wind up on IR and shutdown for the season. This led me to become skeptical about the medical staff and now it appears that they maybe doing the same thing with Watson. Everything depends on him being ready to play when the season starts for them to even have a remote chance of making the playoffs.
     
  16. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    17,079
    Likes Received:
    20,703
    Deshaun getting sloppy seconds from pat Beverley, Rick Ross, Drake, Hardens ex.
     
    Snow Villiers likes this.
  17. Snow Villiers

    Snow Villiers Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    16,879
    Likes Received:
    16,121
    Pics? :D
     
    red5rocket likes this.
  18. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,160
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    But... because of a leg injury; it had nothing to do with his back. This is like bringing your car in to have the engine worked on and then blaming the mechanic for a flat tire.

    Also, we need to stop pretending medical personnel are all-knowing magicians - there's only so much they can do. Their methods could conceivably be suspect, I suppose - but unless you think they're fudging or outright ignoring medical and physical results, he passed their tests and received clearance to play.

    It's then on JJ to manage his pain and what he can and cannot handle. They can't do that for him.
     
    csj likes this.
  19. HillBoy

    HillBoy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,612
    Likes Received:
    2,086
    Jeez! The level of reading comprehension around here is not good. I wasn't talking about JJ's tibial plateau fracture that happened in 2017. I was looking at his 2nd back surgery that occurred in June 2016. The two events are/were not related. JJ has back surgery #2 in June but 12 weeks later is declared ready to go. That struck me as somewhat of a rush job to get him back on the field and sure enough, by Sept 27th, he ended up needing back surgery again and wound up being placed on IR thereby missing the rest of the 2016 season. Now we have Watson suffering his 2nd torn ACL and my worry is that they are doing the same thing with him as they did with JJ. Too much rests on him for them to get it wrong..again.
     
    texian likes this.
  20. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,160
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Ah, gotcha. My bad.

    My second point still stands, though- if he passes their milestones and tests, the burden is passed to him to properly manage his pain and recovery. The doctors can't walk a mile in his shoes.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now