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Derek Fisher Called up

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. zeeshan2

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    No, I am not. In fact, I am wrong.

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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Whether it's true or not, the talk at the time was that Fisher got yanked out of that trade because there were questions about his physical.

    Looks healthy to me.
     
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    He is also 762 home runs away from breaking Barry Bonds record. Not too bad.
     
  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Casey Candaele hit 9 HRs as an Astro, so baby steps to greatness.

    Spiers hit 17, Puhl 62. The bar is pretty ****ing high.
     
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    Time to trade Fisher / Martes. Stocks are high. :)
     
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    I think the Phillies wanted the deal reworked due to Velasquez's physical. The Astros then added Appel and Harold Arauz while subtracting Fisher and the Phillies added Jonathan Arauz.
     
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    Looks like he should be playing catcher.
     
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    how do you not like peanut butter? Peanut butter on wheat bread isn't the best though.
     
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    Weirdest person ever. Peanut Butter is the best thing on earth. If I developed a peanut allergy, I'd risk it all the time.
     
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    lol i wish we woulda had derek fisher vs matt barnes
     
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    What are everyone's thoughts on Fisher so far? Defensively, the reviews were all right about him being a LF with a below average arm. Offensively, he's shown he can catch up to Joe Kelly's 100mph fastball, but is susceptible to pitches inside. Has hit the ball hard right at people a few times. I think he could be the real deal.
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    Sounds like he's going back down as soon as Reddick is back per Luhnow.
     
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    I suspect he will. But, he has done ok for himself so far. He's had some good at bats.
     
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    Didn't read/hear Luhnow's comments but that surprises me given how much they've played Fisher. Aoki is completely redundant right now. Marisnick is better at the plate/in the field and Fisher, at least initially, is a better hitter, too - and left-handed, if that matters.
     
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  17. UTAllTheWay

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    It's the right move. Fisher will get his shot soon enough. Keeping a consistently solid veteran like Aoki around is more important right now.
     
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    Ehhh??
     
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    Looks like we found something to agree on Phillip Calvin McGraw.
     
  20. Joe Joe

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    It was on the Astros Podcast from Sunday. Luhnow talked how Fisher shows he belongs and will likely be an up and down player this year as just no room and potential starter next year in LF. To keep him up, Luhnow said they could go with 12 pitchers, but that would likely tax the bulllpen.

    My only guesses (some not likely correct) at why Astros would send Fisher down are as follows;
    1. Astros don't know who will be traded and don't want to get rid of anyone they may need in case Fisher is traded;
    2. Luhnow doesn't want to look like he's wasting a couple millions of his boss's money by getting rid of a contract; or
    3. Luhnow doesn't want to look bad to players getting rid of a contract signed within last year;
    4. Astros are keeping Aoki to become more recognizable in Japan to open up that market.
    5. Astros think Aoki's bat will play up (or not down) in playoffs in situations with man on second and a guy like Kimbrel on the mound.


    I personally subscribe to the notion that a guy who gets intentionally walked by another team is good enough that you should make room.
     
    #80 Joe Joe, Jun 20, 2017
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