Conservative National Review warns GOP "Governing is a Trap"

Governing is a TRAP! Continue to do nothing until the next election and if you lose that one then continue to do nothing until the next election and if you lose that one...

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing if the Democrats can break the Republican record for filibusters. Live by the sword die by the sword. Ted Cruz is going to have a conniption fit with every filibuster.

 

I'm not sure democrats have the will to filibuster. I think incumbents on both sides really have a strong desire to start doing things lest they be the ones who are fired next.

 

Come on man. I know it sucks when your party loses big and I know you feel angry with Republicans. But we HAVE to stop this cycle. Americans of all stripes need a functional government. We are so much better off when we find ways to work together.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand."

 

Republicans started this cycle and kept it up for six years. Now that they have both houses we have to stop the cycle so they can get their legislation passed? That's pretty convenient. Where were you the last six years?

 

Six years of obstructionism seemed to work at the polls for Republicans so I don't know think that logic really holds. They've set the precedent for just obstructing and them blaming the other side for not getting anything done.

 

There are currently almost 400 House bills (including those with bi-partisan support) sitting in a Harry Reid's desk that he won't even allow to come to a vote. Their is plenty of blame to go around.

Their is also a Democrat President that I'm pretty sure won't let Republicans get all their legislation passed. So its decidedly inconvenient for Republicans in any effort to run the table.

Your own President is RIGHT NOW talking about areas of compromise. So is Mcconnell. Letting anger get in the way of getting things done is not the message the people sent last night. I guess you still don't get it.

 

Oh freaking please. Six years ago the voters sent a message and Republicans blew it off setting records for filibusters. They've bent over backwards to bring this country to a halt for their own political purposes and now they've been rewarded for it. Your own President has been talking about areas of compromise for six years. And what's different now? Republicans have set the precedent. Maybe you don't get that.

It's remarkable to me that you believe Republicans can behave as they have under Obama and that there are no consequences to that. Like you're living in fantasy land.

 

Yes, the Republicans have obstructed.

The almost 400 bills sitting in Harry Reid's desk disagree with your assessment of democratic "compromise".

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...nn-jenkins-blames-harry-reid-do-nothing-sena/

 

Exactly what I have been saying.

 

The Butt Hurt is strong in this election.

 

man it's Politifact, they always shoot for the middle. They state though that much of legislation is held up so it can't have crazy admendments added.

 

Unfortunately there is going to be a lot of thinking along those lines.

Both the parties and branches of government need to consider what is at stake. Obama probably would like something to burnish his legacy with in his last two years at the same time the Republican party might like to show they can govern going into 2016.

 

If you want to ignore the mandate the Republicans just received, go right ahead.

 

This is really, really wrong. People like Senator Thune are right. There's plenty of business that needs doing that may not thrill the average voter that's Republican red meat: online gambling, the double taxing of overseas citizens that affects working people and not the fat cats hiding assets, as well as the fact that London is now the preferred destination for many for financial trading due to poorly written US law that protects US big business rather than regulate fair trading.

And these are only things off the top of my head that I have recent experience with. There's plenty the GOP can do for the greater good that doesn't compromise it's political identity.

 

If this new Congress tries to veto the DC mar1juana law just voted in, I'll pre-emptively say that it isn't much of a mandate if it has no intention of respecting voter referendums.

 

This entire discussion thread is steeped in irony. How do you guys think Obama got elected? He did so on the back of criticism of Bush. He himself had absolutely zero governing skills or experience when he was elected. And since being elected, he has proven himself incapable of leading and governing. He ran on a platform of 'bringing people together', and then proceeded to govern like an extreme partisan. The entire premise of this thread is just hilarious when overlaid against this context.

 

Do you speak so eloquently of these mandates when it is the Democrats receiving them?

 

He got elected both times, and especially the second, because he raised way more funds, mostly due to the backing of the financial and insurance industries that pretty much get to decide who is going to be president in every election since they have more money than anyone else to give.

He criticized unpopular policy, particularly two expensive wars coupled with a tax break, which certainly got voters fired up. But he ran pretty upbeat and positive campaigns. Hope and change and all that crap. But ad hominem it was not. Not only has he not been very critical of Bush, Bush hasn't been very critical of him. All of that to the chagrin of the voters that haven't yet figured out how the game of governance actually works, including apparently you.

Obama has proven himself a pretty capable leader, and certainly not an ideologue -- it would be hard to argue his prosecution of the War of Terror appealed to the doves that loved him. If anything, his policies and speeches are that of a centrist, if not center-right. I don't see much in his presidency that 1996 Bob Dole wouldn't do -- including ACA, which is not dissimilar from the health plan in the Dole/Kemp campaign platform.

He hasn't been a stellar president, but he's hardly been the end-of-america-as-we-know-it-commie-fifth-columnist-secret-muslim that we were promised by every panicked conservative pundit in 2008. He also might be the best president since Nixon, if not Johnson if we look at actual accomplishments and not the media narrative designed for the proles.