[ClutchSads] "The way the Rockets play aren't appealing to other players"

Why don’t you quote my whole post instead of taking apart of it to make your thread. It is documented that players like Ariza and Gordon was not fond of the offense. So there are players out there that it’s not appealing to. Doesn’t mean it’s everyone.

 

Right, so we got some players, that's all well and good. But unless we get EVERYONE that ANY fan wants, then the style of play isn't appealing, and Tilman is cheap.







[[Tilman probably is broke and cheap]]

 

Only Rivers and Faried's quotes were from this season, and one of them was out an NBA rotation for years while the other was on a sharp decline with a likely exit out of the league. Both players signed when there was a gaping hole at their positions due to injuries. I'm not jumping up and down because we can convince the Austin Rivers/Kenneth Faried's of the world to sign with us.

Houston's offense has stagnated to a brutally slow place, and it's evident that players are not as engaged as they were in previous years. The quality of play on both ends of the floor has also fell off a cliff this season compared to last year, so we can't get away with a "join the best team in the NBA!" sales pitch this season.

The offense is hideous to watch. Hideous. Our conference rivals (and even teams like Indiana, who Wes Matthews chose over us) have a much more engaging offense that gets players involved. In 2019, if you don a Rockets uniform your job is to stand still and watch Harden/Paul iso and hope for an open 3 OR set a pick to create a mismatch for Harden/Paul. That's it. Players will not improve in this system and they're smart for choosing other teams over us.

 

This is this narrative that Charles and the TNT guys spread around that all Harden does is ballhog so no one wants to play with him. It was spread so much if you remember that everyone thought Harden couldn't play with CP3. That it was impossible, only one ball, he wouldn't be able to play with him.

It's odd to me because Lebron does the same thing...Lebron basically takes over PG duties for his team, even if Rondo is in the game...Lebron demands anyone he plays with to stand behind the 3 point line for the kick out. The way teams play with through them is basically the same, drive and kick, just that Lebron is more of a threat driving and Harden is more of a threat hitting 3 pointers.

But only one guy has this narrative of being a ballhog that no one wants to play with...



Conspiracy folks.

 

ClutchSads lol

If you told me at the beginning of the year this would be our roster...

CP3/Rivers
MVP/Gordon
Shumpert/Green
TuckWagon/an emerging House
Capela/Manimal

Sign me up, we could go to war with that healthy squad

 

It's called 'emotional hedging'...

"Betting against one’s sports team could theoretically satisfy the behavioral economist in many. After all, as Boston University business professor Casey Morewedge notes, “Logic strongly recommends this kind of emotional hedge. Consider that for most people, losing something hurts more than gaining that same thing feels good — a phenomenon known as loss aversion.” And betting that your side will lose helps minimize your potential losses rather than maximize your potential gains."

instead of betting... people just use it so if bad things happen - they can say "see - I was right..."

 

Sounds like somebody is looking for a valentine

 

those old heads are colorstruck and just dont want harden to tie curry in mvps

 

Lmfao

 

Seems to me that some players are having fun, while others are not.

Perhaps the organization could provide these sad individuals with a life coach???

Do something Morey!!!!!!

 

I should provide you with a stone cold stunner

 

This thread sucks

 

As much as you are correct, I actually immediately started to wonder why Morris didn’t want to come here and the first thing that popped up is he must have watched the last 10 games or so and wondered how he would fit in or if he would enjoy it. I mean when we say the offense is predictable, defensive teams know either it’s a 3 or at the basket. You have to be a top top scorer to score in a not so free flowing offense. Which is why Harden is the one who is most successful.

Dantoni went from a beautiful playbook to benching players who take a midrange shot. Not running plays just dribbling the ball to find a mismatch and hope one superior player can score over elite defenders...

 

I understand where OP is trying to go but I disagree. The idea that you are right and above everyone else is silly. The other silly thought is dividing everyone into two categories when we all feel different and the same about certain things. Then the post basically devolves into the thought that we should all be yes fans and we can't have anything truthful or thoughtful to say about the Rockets or its called "Therapy" I guess. Weird post for me dog.

 

I will say that there is more movement when Harden is off the court. Its like other guys are more interested because they realize there's a chance they get the ball if they move around. Moreover, when Harden passes out its like he gives up on the play and stands around to watch. No running around, setting screens, etc. It's just not a very strong offense to watch play, and this is really the first year we've played like this. Reminds me at times of the offense we used to see with Steve Francis and Cuttino Mobley where they'd literally iso every possession - that team swore up and down 'no one wanted to play us' in the playoffs, though of course we didnt make the playoffs to begin with.

 

Ask yourself why the offense is so bad and the pace so slow … Its because they have been running backups and Dleaguers and two guys who were out of the league out there for half the season - Harden has no choice but to do the heavy lifting when the 2nd and 3rd best players on the roster are unable to play. They fact that they are still in the playoff hunt is a testament to how historically great Harden has been over that stretch.
Unlike last year when the team was relatively healthy for much of the season - Harden made Ariza $15m giving him all those open 3's.

Once they get healthy and the offense gets its #2 weapon back in Capela … things will look a lot different.

 

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@Os Trigonum

 

Not true, our offense this year is actually better than it was last year.

Would you prefer having an offense that is engaging, gets players involved, is fun to watch, but scores less points?