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BREAKING: New York prosecutor seeks Trump's tax returns cites 'protracted criminal activity'

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  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Public allegations of possible criminal act won't get a prosecuter into an individual's tax return.

    The privacy of the tax return is sacred. Someone's income only has to be shared with the IRS. Even if they are for President.

    Thats what y'all fail to grasp. Tax returns aren't willy nilly type ****.
     
  2. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    And until trump every president in the last 50 year's has shared them.
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Obama releasing his tax return isn't anything spectacular. Its not ordinary because all candidates do it

    Its ordinary because United States Senators salaries are public information
     
  4. pgabriel

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    So what bro? Its a voluntary tradition. All of them were public servants

    I hate debating with some of you guys because you dont listen. You just talk at

    Listen this time.TAX RETURNS ARE SACRED PRIVATE INFORMATION UNDER THE LAW

    None of us are privy to anyone's income. Let the human resources chic at Exxon make all Exxon employees salaries public. What do you think would happen to he
     
  5. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    There is nothing sacred about a tax return hahaha
     
  6. pgabriel

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    Ypur income is private. You give your tax return to a bank for a loan. You ever heard of a bank releasing tax return information of a borrower?

    Why in the **** you think irs so haed to get Trump's. You're arguing about this they cant get it but you still doubting its sanctity.

    All of yall are hard headed
    All of y'all got hard ons for his info, four years later and still think you got a right to it.
     
  7. larsv8

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    Yes, all the time, I am a CPA
     
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  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    In what situation?
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    @larsv8

    I was a banker. I gave up a tax return to the fbi once. The contractor 95% was done paying a construction loan and disappeared.

    Turned out he was being investigated by the DEA. He had already skipped town which we found out from the subpoena

    Trump aint no where near a situation like that

    Edit: thats even wrpng, they could that themselves, they wanted other information
     
  10. larsv8

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    I am not sure why you think subpeona's are not extremely easy to get.

    I have seen them turned over in civil cases, child custody cases, fraud cases, SEC cases, criminal cases, etc.
     
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    And thats all legal disputes. Thsre isn't any specific charge with Donald Trump

    Child custody isn't public information.

    A civil suit and a child custody case would not result in the tax returns becoming public

    All this Trump stuff is a fishing expedition. Trump's bankruptcy is public
    The tax returns that are reviewed in the bankruptcy aren't public
     
  12. larsv8

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    This isnt going to the public, its going to New York prosecutors.
     
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  13. pgabriel

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    We're going in circles. Prosecutors were asked for a reason to subpoena reurns. They don't have one

    I admit im caught up on them becoming public but im also arguing they dont have a reason.

    Here is the other thing about tax returns and i say this understanding im not qualified to argue with a prosecuter, cpa, or an irs agent.

    That being said the irs has already passed his returns. People dont put crimes in returns. They hide crimes from them
     
  14. larsv8

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    Yea, this is a bunch of nonsense.

    You are trying to argue that law enforcement can't get his returns because they can't prove a crime. That's not how it works.

    They subpoena records to help prove guilt.
     
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    Michael Cohen under oath in a public testimony described criminal fraud that he committed along with Trump and his team (Weiselberg etc).

    Michael Cohen is also sitting in jail because of crimes directed by Trump.

    Then there are the Deutsch bank investigations that involve the Trump organization as one of the entities they did business with in a fraudulent manner along with Kushner.

    All reasons to investigate further to validate or discredit public knowledge of white collar criminal activity. Especially in this public of a manner it’s important for the integrity of the state of New York to not have it on their record that they allow white collar criminal behavior. If Trump is being falsely accused you would think he would comply and supply the evidence that disproves the allegations. Why wouldn’t you if you are innocent?

    Also there is no reason why the American public would ever see Trumps taxes unless parts of it end up unsealed by a judge in the later parts of a trial. If that happens Trumps taxes are the least of his concerns. That would mean Trump is literally on trial and has already been charged. Vance can not legally release his returns, or he would be disbarred at the very least.

    This is actually a pretty important case because if Trump is not cleared here in virtually every white collar fraud case the state of NY wants to bring in the future the defendant could say in court that the state of NY refused to bring charges in the case of Michael Cohen so there’s precedent for their case to be dropped... and the defendant wouldn’t be wrong.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    Dont put wprds in mouth. Okay, it waste's everyone's time.

    I said prosecutors didn't give a good reason to issue a subpoena. They can't just request privste information.

    Can a cop just kick ypur door un because they think you have drugs? I mean they can't prove you have drugs till they kick your door dow.

    See how stupid that **** is?

    Edit: what's really bothersome about your smart assness is the reason im stating they can't get a subpoena now is the reason they have never gotten one. They don't have a good reason.

    Cue Earth Wind And Fire
     
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    Yes. Not sure why that question was even posed. The banker is being investigated because of her clients’ financial relationship with the bank in relation to fraud that was disclosed under oath to Congress.

    Of course you need know the facts around that clients financial relationship with the bank and the documents provided to commit or not commit said fraud.
     
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  19. larsv8

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    They gave a very reasonable reason, far more substantive than reasons for numerous other granted subpoena's in the past. We have court records of Cohen, Trumps attorney, testifying he broke the law. Frankly, there isn't any evidence that could be better than that.

    Um yes, cops kick doors down all the time, based on probable cause.

    The reason they never got one is because it went to the supreme court, which recently rejected the idea that they couldn't.

    You are just horribly misinformed on this topic.
     
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