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Baylor University Sexual Assault Scandal Mega Thread

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Brando2101, Jun 13, 2016.

  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    AGREED. RIP FOREVER, In & Out Burger & Taco Bueno.
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    CS is getting an In-N-Out.
     
  3. Buck Turgidson

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    That's when you know your franchise has proverbially "jumped the shark".
     
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    lmao. It never ends...

    The amazing thing is people will still buy tickets to watch and cheer this team
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Everyone seems to refer to Baylor as "that rape team" now. Gratz.
     
  8. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    I'm betting a lot of people would have a bigger problem with dog fighting than rape. There is a lot of people who think these women are lying or are asking for it for inviting a guy in their apartment or going to someone else's.

    The dog fighting has a chance to be a major criminal issue if money was involved. I'm assuming the business didn't cross state lines so the FBI wouldn't get involved like they did with Vick.


    The school is already going to be destroyed by the NCAA with sanctions once their investigation is complete. A gambling ring could realistically give the program the death penalty.
     
  9. TheRealist137

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    Death penalty and the entire football program should be purged.
     
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  10. Brando2101

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    It's because they have been bad for so long and just not have seen success. I was at UT for the national championship. I know what it means to win. I know what that win is worth and what it is not. If this happened at UT then I would say the program needs to be shutdown.


    The story as originally reported below. I could not post the massive timeline in the article so you'll have to click the link to see it: http://www.kxxv.com/story/35451084/...e-was-gang-raped-by-multiple-football-players

    Here are the highlights:
    -The lawsuit claims that members of the Baylor football team hazed freshmen recruits by having them invite freshmen women to house parties.

    -The lawsuit said the girls would be drugged and gang raped. It also said the gang rapes were bonding experiences for the football players.

    -During the investigation, the plaintiff said there is at least one video of two female students being gang raped by several football players.

    -According to the Pepper Hamilton report, 17 victims reported allegations of assault or domestic violence by 19 Baylor football players.

    -However, according to more recent reports, in the span of four years—from 2011 to 2014—there were at least 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, by not less than 31 different football players

    Dog Fighting allegations listed in lawsuit document:


    39. Baylor football parties would also feature dog fighting. In at least one of the
    matches, a dog was seriously injured and almost died.

    91. In April 2013, Plaintiff’s apartment was burglarized by Baylor football players. The football players stole money and a necklace, and threw Plaintiff’s clothing and belongings all over her room. Plaintiff reported the burglary to the Waco Police Department, but no charges were pressed on the pretext that the Waco Police Department made the players return Plaintiff’s belongings.
    94. After reporting the burglary to the Waco Police Department, Plaintiff received threatening and harassing text messages from several Baylor football players, including one of the players who burglarized her apartment. The football players later tried to justify the burglary by spreading false rumors that Plaintiff had stolen their dog. Earlier that year, Plaintiff had taken the player’s dog to the vet and paid for urgent medical treatment after the dog was injured in a dog fight orchestrated by Baylor football players.


    To view the entire lawsuit, read below:
    https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vi...rary/ee5a7f27-eb48-4417-a257-3e3315e5031b.pdf
     
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  11. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    That timeline needs a new entry for, "Football program suspended indefinitely."

    Crossing fingers.
     
  12. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    It's coming. The NCAA is doing their topical extensive and drawn out investigation that they do for all the scandals. They just rushed and listed a bunch of sanctions on Penn St and that's a part of why they were thrown out. They are doing what they are good out. Take a look at what they did to USC because Reggie Bush accepted gifts from agents: The football team was forced to vacate the final two wins of its 2004 national championship season, as well as all of its wins in 2005. It was also banned from bowl games in both 2010 and 2011 and was docked 30 scholarships over three years.

    There wasn't any evidence that any of the coaches or admins at USC knew that Bush was getting these benefits although it didn't help that they had a similar problem with OJ Mayo and their basketball team at the same time. The basketball program got its own list of sanctions.

    Enjoy 2017 Baylor because Winter is Coming.
     
  13. Icehouse

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    Dogfighting? They are really in trouble now.
     
  14. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    That isn't even their first recent dog-related problem either. http://raycomgroup.worldnow.com/sto...ideo-shows-baylor-football-player-abusing-dog

    And according to that LONG timeline, it's possssssssible someone raped a HORSE
    I'll go ahead and assume that YES, it was horse.
     
  15. Fulgore

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    Baylor use to be a classy university
     
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    This is the inevitable consequence of Baptists allowing dancing.
     
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    Most people that could go to Baylor have other options. They should look into those other options.
     
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    https://www.si.com/college-football...al-assault-scandal-lawsuit-ncaa-death-penalty

    Every time something new surfaces in the Baylor scandal, a question follows. Where is the NCAA? Another question typically follows that one. When is Baylor getting the death penalty?

    Let’s answer both straight away.

    1) The NCAA is exactly where it has been in most cases that involve potential violations of state and federal law but no known violations of NCAA rules. It is out of its depth.

    2) Baylor—specifically Baylor football, because why punish the track team?—is not getting the death penalty.

    This may enrage you if you’ve read the accusations of gang rape, victim shaming and a cover-up that went to the top of Baylor's athletic department detailed in a civil suit served upon the school Tuesday by attorneys for a former Bears volleyball player. If even a fraction of what is alleged is true, those responsible should face serious punishment from every organization that governed them while employed at Baylor.

    But they won’t. Sure, Baylor fired coach Art Briles and president Ken Starr and forced out athletic director Ian McCaw. But none of them is going to jail. In fact, Briles got paid millions to go away and keep his mouth shut. (He didn’t do either but still has the money.) McCaw, meanwhile, got hired for the same job at Liberty University. The NCAA, meanwhile, has done nothing because it can’t do anything.

    Will the NCAA punish the Ole Miss football program for the distribution of an alleged $37,310 in cash, goods and services to players and recruits? Sure. The NCAA has rules against paying people for being good at a sport. But it has no rules against any of the awful things that happened at Baylor. States have rules against those things. So does the federal government. The NCAA does not.

    This explanation will prompt another question. But what about Penn State? The answer is NCAA president Mark Emmert screwed up with Penn State in 2012. Led by Emmert, the NCAA sidestepped its normal disciplinary process to hammer Penn State’s football program with sanctions following the Jerry Sandusky scandal. Emmert caved to public outcry without considering whether his organization’s own rules even allowed the punishment. Spoiler alert: They probably didn’t. After Pennsylvania's treasurer and representatives of Joe Paterno's estate sued, the NCAA wound up walking back the penalties, and the organization was further embarrassed when Oregon State president Ed Ray, the chair of the committee that issued the penalties, admitted he couldn’t even be bothered to read the Freeh Report, the investigation upon which the sanctions were based, while on vacation.

    So that’s why the NCAA won’t hammer the Baylor football program for acts far more heinous than people (allegedly) giving people money for being good at football at Ole Miss or people (allegedly) creating fake classes so some athletes could keep playing sports at North Carolina. The NCAA, an organization made up of universities with rules made by the universities, is not equipped to handle things that matter far more than the trifles it typically polices.

    Which brings us to the most important question: Why isn’t it?
    The schools, which once banned cream cheese for bagels, had a chance after the Penn State debacle to alter the NCAA’s rules to allow the organization to take on more serious matters. They could have added language to their Unethical Conduct bylaw—their catch-all rule—that would have made athletic department employees who failed to report an allegation of violence (sexual or otherwise) against another person by anyone under their purview guilty of a violation. The schools could have added language that any program that benefitted from such a cover-up can be hit with further sanctions. Such changes, which could have been made within a year or two of the Penn State mistake, might have allowed for NCAA sanctions in the Baylor case* depending on the timeline.

    *The NCAA could conceivably punish Baylor for violations of recruiting or extra benefit rules. There certainly were plenty of accusations on those fronts during the Briles era, but nothing has been proven at this point. When one Baylor basketball player murdered another in 2003 and coach Dave Bliss told his players to lie about the dead player, the NCAA did punish the program. Not for the truly awful stuff, but because Bliss was paying two players—including murder victim Patrick Dennehy—to act as walk-ons to get around NCAA scholarship limits.

    But the leaders of the schools chose not to give the NCAA that power. Why? Perhaps they didn’t want the NCAA’s occasionally inept enforcement department messing around in cases far more important in the grand scheme than whether a coach made too many phone calls to a recruit. Perhaps they felt the existing state and federal laws were enough. Perhaps they feared the next scandal would pop up at their school and didn’t want to give the NCAA the option to gut a cash cow football program.

    Former Baylor athletic director McCaw may have felt that way. According to the newest suit, he was alerted to the gang rape allegation in 2013, about a year after the incident that prompted it. According to filing by members of Baylor’s board of regents in response to a suit filed by one of the staffers fired in the wake of the scandal, the investigation by law firm Pepper Hamilton found that McCaw claimed to Baylor’s Title IX coordinator in 2015 that he hadn’t been alerted to any accusations of gang rapes by football players. In that same filing, McCaw also is accused of texting “That would be great if they kept it quiet!”

    If the schools had been willing to alter their rules, the NCAA might have been able to investigate and then haul McCaw before the Committee on Infractions. If what is alleged is true, that group could then hand down a penalty that would render McCaw effectively unemployable in college sports. The same could be done with Briles. (I’d say no one in college sports would be dumb enough to hire Briles at this point, but someone was dumb enough to hire McCaw.)

    So if you’re mad that the NCAA isn’t going to punish Baylor for one of the worst scandals in the history of college sports, contact your favorite school president. Tell him or her you want the NCAA to have some power to investigate and punish in these cases. The people in charge of the schools are the only ones who can decide whether the NCAA will have any power when the next scandal hits. Until then, the organization will sweat the small stuff while the big stuff goes largely unpunished.
     
  19. Hustle Town

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    That's not my reaction at all. I think we should do away with the NCAA, not give it more power. The ruling body is a complete joke. And if Baylor was as much of a "Christian university" as they claim to be, they would do away with football. Their priorities are in the gutter.
     
  20. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    They care about money more than anything else, just like everyone else. They'll "do away" with Christianity (the way TCU did) before they give up football. Lulz. Lulz & true.
     

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