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Barr is dumping 150 years of AG separation of powers to be Trump's B***h

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I want to know who was spying on Trump.
     
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    Get the tinfoil off man, and figure out that there is a problem when Trump is trying to appoint campaign advisors who know nothing about economics to the federal reserve. Are you that stupid?
     
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    I am sure you were equally outraged when the Obama administration decided not to defend DOMA?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-administration-will-no-longer-defend-doma/
     
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    There have already been a few investigations into that, and the Inspector General is currently investigating...
     
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    SMDH
     
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    trump finally got his roy cohn...

    WHO IS ROY COHN? ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR DRAWS COMPARISONS TO DONALD TRUMP'S FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY AND LOYAL FIXER
    https://www.newsweek.com/roy-cohn-william-barr-donald-trump-attorney-1393150
     
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    So far he's acting like Trump's personal attorney and not the AG of the nation.
     
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    an alternative perspective:

    The campaign against Attorney General Bill Barr is in full swing. We are told that he’s a tawdry tool of Donald Trump, that he’s disgracing himself and sullying his reputation, that he’s the equivalent of a Roy Cohn, the sleazy lawyer who once represented Trump back in New York.

    The criticism of Barr reached a crescendo this week after he used the word “spying” in congressional testimony to refer to the surveillance of Trump-campaign officials in 2016. The reaction to his testimony was absurdly over-the-top. Yes, the word “spying” has a negative connotation, but it’s functionally indistinguishable from “surveilling.” To wit: The FISA court that approves the FBI’s surveillance is sometimes referred to in the press as the “spy court.”

    There is no doubt that Trump officials were surveilled or spied on. The FBI famously acquired a FISA warrant against Carter Page, who briefly served as a Trump foreign-policy adviser. It is true that the FBI began surveilling Page in October 2016 after he left the campaign, but the warrant allowed it to look back at his communications during his time with the campaign.

    The FBI also gathered information on Page and campaign adviser George Papadopoulos via an informant, who contacted Trump aide Sam Clovis as well.

    The question, as Barr said the other day, is whether this surveillance was properly predicated. Barr is being attacked as a partisan hack for saying he’s going to find out. Democrats fear that Trump will use — and exaggerate — whatever is found for his own political purposes, but this isn’t a good reason to oppose Barr’s determining whether the FBI conducted itself with good judgment and in good faith during this episode. The public certainly has an interest in knowing the facts, which is why as many documents related to the beginning of the probe and its conduct should be released as possible.

    Barr is also taking a beating for redacting the forthcoming Mueller report. But it is his responsibility to take out grand-jury material — a D.C. court of appeals decision just affirmed that this material can’t be released to Congress under current statute — classified information, and disparaging references to people incidentally related to the probe. This is simply good practice, and Barr has said he’s combing through the report with Robert Mueller. You know, just like Roy Cohn would.

    The final count against Barr is that he wrote a memo prior to his appointment as attorney general outlining his view that the legally aggressive theory of obstruction of justice that Mueller seemed to be operating on was flawed. We are told this was Barr shamelessly kowtowing to Trump. But there’s no reason to believe that this wasn’t Barr’s considered, sincere view of the law, and it seems to be the correct one, by the way.

    Barr didn’t take the job of attorney general for the sake of résumé padding — he already had the job on his résumé. He thought his experience, knowledge, and credibility gave him a unique ability to lead the Justice Department at an incredibly fraught time. Nothing he has done so far has cast any doubt on that assessment. We trust he will shrug off the absurd rage directed at him, and carry on.​

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/william-barr-attorney-general-smear-campaign/
     
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    Going to watch it all unravel.
     
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    Big difference in deciding not to defend a law in the court system versus refusing to do the duty of enforcement, in fact, while Obama did not defend DOMA as constitutional in the court system, he still enforced it (in the same article you linked to):

    So I ask you, why is Trump refusing to enforce the law?
     
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    We all knew that Barr was hired because he said the Russia investigation was a hoax, and it's quite clear he is loyal to Trump and not the country. The grand jury redacting is BS given that the Starr report against Clinton didn't redact any grand jury testimony.
     
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    It's revolting. It's an unprecedented politicization of departments throughout the government.
     
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    The Obama Administration and intel agencies spied on Trump's campaign, and then Obama-era holdovers in the DOJ, CIA, and FBI attempted a coup to remove Trump from power by literally inventing and setting up the fake Russian collusion charge. Any respectable Attorney General interested in upholding the rule of law and preserving American institutions should investigate the hell out of ALL OF IT. Thankfully Bill Barr is going to do just that. Let's put all the filth and dishonesty out there for the public to see. We already know that Stzrok, McCabe and Brennan are in deep schit... I'm just curious to see if Hillary and Obama are implicated. Hard for me to envision them not being a part of this disgusting scheme. Two true pieces of trash.

    GOOD DAY
     
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    No.
     
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    I’m curious, were you just as revolted when Eric Holder announced he was Obama’s “Wing Man”? Or did you cheer that one.

    Did you see it as an unprecedented politicization of departments when Eric Holder announced he was Obama's “Wing Man”? Or did you cheer it?

    The Justice Department with Obama’s Wing Man at the helm dropped a lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party for voter intimidation, refused to prosecute Lois Lerner when it was revealed that her division of the IRS was targeting Tea Party and other conservative organizations for ideological and political reasons, and blocked the “Fast & Furious” gun walking investigation that resulted in more than 60 deaths and earned him his contempt of Congress citation.

    Were you as revolted then or are you just a hypocrite now?
     
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