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Armed Teachers: Yes or No

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Feb 22, 2018.

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Should we allow teachers to have guns on Campus?

  1. Yes - Protection Protection Protection

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  2. No - More harm than good

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  3. I don't know

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  1. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

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    Could you explain the exact scenario you are describing where a 6 year old disarms an adult teacher? You are scenario jumping and now talking about bumfights has me completely lost here. 17 people were just killed and we have data about NDs among CCW holders so it should be pretty compelling.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    Of course it isn't sufficient. It isn't a solution to anything with regards to school security. Securing an area is a well understood task, schools are incredibly soft targets and that needs to change if the public actually cares about making schools safe.
     
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  3. Amiga

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    It means teacher and "good" student can't rely on others, including armed professional, to protect them. It means teacher and "good" student need to be armed with AR-15. FIGHT BACK! Go USA!
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    Based on the 6 armed deputies protecting 1 coward traitor right now I think the solution is to deputize all teachers and then the police will instantly be simply holding the thin blue line.

    WSVN said it sent a reporter to the Boynton Beach, Florida, home of Broward County Sheriff's deputy Scot Peterson for an interview when the reporter was met with six deputies "standing guard outside."
     
  5. Amiga

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  6. Buck Turgidson

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    Can you have enough armed guards?

    Turning schools into quasi-jails sounds like a great idea. CoreCivic and GEO Group totally agree, hell, they sponsored this message.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Are sporting events "quasi-jails" due to them having adequate armed security? It just seems like some people are looking for any excuse to not do anything productive to help protect kids.
     
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    Makes me uneasy, but I think there could be a reasonable way to accomplish it.
     
  9. Two Sandwiches

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    Didn't read through the responses, but arming teachers does nothing.

    Just look to the armed police officer that literally did nothing during the shooting.

    Also, almost every mass shooting is carried out with an assault rifle. Arming 6 random Joe Blows that teach at a school with a couple 9s is going to do nothing to stop someone that really wants to kill people with an AR.

    For example, the guy that shot the church shooter in Texas said that he'd have stood no chance against him had he have grabbed his handgun. He was a registered instructor with the NRA.

    Putting more guns in school will do nothing but encourage kids to break into teacher's desks or grab a gun off a teacher's belt, and kill them or others.

    The simple answer is the one we all know - the elephant in the room. Assault rifles have got to go. They are made to kill people as efficiently as possible. They've got to go.

    If you make it illegal to sell them, most kids are not going to be able to get ahold of one.

    From there, if you truly must keep guns in the school, keep a hidden safe in the school that the principals know about, and that's it. Then, you're fighting an even fight.


    As a new father, these things affect me more and more every time they happen. We all know what has to be done. It's time for the r****ded gun clingers to loosen their greasy grips from the AR. There's no reason you have one, other than you think it's cool, and you think you're cool by shooting off 500 rounds at the range. Get a grip.
     
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  10. Bobbythegreat

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    I posted this earlier, but assault rifles were only used in 2 of the 10 deadliest school massacres in American history, handguns are the weapon of choice and have been deadlier than attacks on schools using "assault rifles". On top of that, we learned the last time we had an assault weapons ban that it did nothing to decrease the rate of school shootings or the lethality of school shootings.....so again, you say it's the "elephant in the room" when it's really just a distraction from things that would actually help keep kids safe.

    Now that said, I agree that arming teachers isn't a real solution, but the real solution is adding more security personnel. We are a country that will provide more security for 20-25 congressmen playing ball at a park than we will to protect 3000 children....despite knowing that the children are being targeted more and more often. People come up with excuses to do nothing to actually keep the kids safe while talking about ineffective weapons bans.

    Here's a list of the 10 deadliest school massacres in American history and their weapon or weapons of choice. How can you look at this list and think that an assault weapons ban would really make a difference?

    1. Bath School Bombing 44 dead (dynamite)
    2. Virginia Tech Shooting 32 dead (handgun)
    3. Sandy Hook shooting 27 dead (assault rifle)
    4. UT tower shooting 17 dead (hunting rifle)
    5. Douglas shooting 17 dead (assault rifle)
    6. Columbine shooting 15 dead (Multiple, but shotguns and a semi-automatic tec 9 did the most damage)
    7. Umpqua CC shooting 9 dead (handguns)
    8. Red Lake shooting 9 dead (handguns and shotgun)
    9. Oikos University shooting 8 dead (handgun)
    10. UC-SB shooting 6 dead (knives and handguns)
     
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  11. Two Sandwiches

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    How about every student is forced to take a gun safety class twice a day from grades 3-12? A minimum of 30 hours per week at the shooting range.

    Once you show proficiency, you can open carry your gun all around school. You get one free A, per semester -to use in a class of your choice, if you show proficiency to open carry.

    Every school will have it's own range. We can just put it in the cafeteria.

    Better yet, let's make Canada pay for all of this.


    Man this guy is an effing joke. The sooner he leaves office, the better.




    Thanks for the list, Bobby.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    It's not an idea it's a diversion.

    The kids are allright.

    Listen to the Parkland kids. They are goddam heros, imo. They don't fall for this **** like us or the political press.

    They keep asking hard questions that people like Rubio can't answer and they are not deterred, and they keep asking.

    They really don't even bother with trying to reason with soulless husks like Trump or NRA thralls.

    This is what we should have been doing all along
     
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    I highly doubt a teacher with a handgun is going to be very effective against an semi-automatic rifle. Rifle has far better aim at range than a handgun.

    Having a handgun on campus by a teacher who is not going to be anywhere as effective as law enforcement is stupid. It's not a movie. If teachers have hand guns where will they keep them? And in an active shooter situation what teacher is going do? How will they find the gunman and identify them?
     
  14. krnxsnoopy

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    Exactly, arming TEACHERS with hand guns isn't going to stop mass shootings despite what simpletons like you and Trump say.
     
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  15. AroundTheWorld

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    No. Ludicrous. Crazy.
     
  16. Buck Turgidson

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    There's just no upside in trying to have a rational conversation with a gun fetishist.
     
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    Which of these was the Vegas Shooting?

    Rocket River
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    It might be reasonable in a less dense rural areas and very small schools where the student/teacher ratio is lower.
     
  20. MadMax

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    Got it...you're right. I didn't read the qualifier of "school."
     
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