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Altuve MVP Watch Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Hustle Town, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. Hustle Town

    Hustle Town Contributing Member

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    All rise for the real MVP.
     
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    based on batting average?

    I mean, I also think he's got a case for MVP. But if BA is our only argument, he's a runner-up again.
     
  3. RocketsTruth

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    gonna get robbed like harden, because ESPN is on Aaron Judge's dick. Just like they were with Westbrook. Wins and losses mean nothing anymore when the media controls the narrative
     
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    hits, doubles,.365, steals, aweseomeness and his obp(almost identical to judge's of the "yankees".)

    If he played for one of the cubs, it would be automatic. As is, probably 3rd or 4th.
     
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    @Os Trigonum

    media conspiracy or no?
     
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    how the hell did I get mentioned in the goddamned ASTROS forum!! :D no media conspiracy, Aaron Judge is clearly superior to whoever it is you're talking about :p

    now I'll go hide under a rock
     
  7. Tha_Dude

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    Throwing shade at Altuve I see. Are you a Yankees fan bro?

    Tuves>>Judge
    Stros>>Yanks

    My work is done here.
     
  8. J.R.

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    Jurist or fish guy will probably get it. :rolleyes:

    http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/...ose-altuve-passes-aaron-judge-as-mvp-favorite

    After going 4-for-4 with a walk in the Astros' 13-4 thrashing of the Phillies for his second straight four-hit game, Altuve is now hitting .365. He has a 16-game hitting streak that includes 12 multihit games, he's hitting .430 on the road and he leads the majors with 18 games of at least three hits. All of that's pretty awesome, but he's also doing this:

    José Altuve is hitting .507 in July. The last player to hit .500 for a full calendar month was Iván Rodríguez in June 2004 (min. 75 AB).
    Back in April, Altuve struck out on 22.5 percent of his plate appearances, which was oddly high for him; but since then, he has been under 10 percent. He fights off pitches and sprays the ball around. You can't throw 98 mph fastballs past him, and you have to respect the power that has him on pace for 49 doubles and 25 home runs. Most players today are swinging from their heels, hoping to launch one over the fence no matter the situation. Altuve is a throwback, and it's a beautiful thing to watch.

    Altuve's OPS is up to 1.005. Since 1950, the only second basemen with an OPS over 1.000 are Jeff Kent in 2000 and Joe Morgan in 1976. Both won MVP honors those seasons, which brings us to the MVP race in the American League. At the All-Star break, Aaron Judge led Altuve in WAR, 5.3 to 4.7. Entering Monday's play, Altuve had jumped ahead of Judge, 5.5 to 5.3; and that's probably up to 5.7 after Monday's game, meaning Altuve has picked up a win in value over just 10 games (while Judge has slumped to a .158 average since the break).

    It seems like those two have separated themselves from the field, especially with Carlos Correa now on the disabled list. George Springer (who exited Monday's game after tweaking his quad) and Jose Ramirez are certainly having MVP-caliber seasons, and Chris Sale has a strong case, if you want to consider a pitcher. But how awesome is it that the biggest player in the game is battling the smallest player in the game for MVP honors? Baseball is the best.
     
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    July 1923
     
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    In July, Aaron Judge: .242/.370/.485/.855. Jose Altuve: .507/.554/.760/1.314

    He's increased his WAR by more than a full point this month and now leads baseball with a 5.8, on pace for 9.5 on the game's best team.
     
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    Sadly, this feels like a distinct possibility. Altuve's doing things that just are absurd, but it's a quiet absurd to the rest of the league. Judge will win Rookie of the Year, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent contingent of voters want to couple that with MVP to look extra cool.

    Tony Gwynn never won MVP despite winning so many batting titles (8) that they named the National League batting title award after him. He also had 5 gold gloves and 7 silver sluggers.

    We'll see.
     
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    Pssh, devastating slash lines. Whatever.

     
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    I see it as plausible. But he's collapsed in August before. He needs to keep the pace. If he hits .400 the rest of the way it's his.
     
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    Tony Gwynn only went to the playoffs 3 times and he missed 40+ games in two of those seasons. Not surprising he never won an MVP. 1987 was the one year where he was definitely deserving, but his team was awful and nearly lost 100 games. So hard to win from a losing team.

    Wade Boggs played for the Red Sox and was a better player than Gwynn. Boggs never sniffed an MVP. All because voters over-valued home runs and undervalued walks. Boggs hit .366/.476/.490 for a playoff team (before the wild card), led the league in doubles and WAR. He finished 6th in MVP voting. He was even better the year before hitting 24 home runs, but missing the playoffs and finished 9th.
     
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    I think Correa's injury certainly helped his case. When we had 3 guys all putting up crazy numbers, it was hard to justify giving it to any one of them.

    He has put distance between himself and Springer as the best player on the Astros, and Judge has finally started to come back down to earth. Judge plays in a better hitter's park, at a position with much less defensive value, on a worse team.

    If I had a vote, it would go to Altuve right now. Lot of season left though.
     
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