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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    Given his cognitive ability is fine now I'd imagine it will be fine in 2024. Trump on the other hand is showing signs of dementia and paranoia.
     
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    What is the potential for corruption with mail in ballots? It's been used for years and year without any issue, why now?
     
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    The general election scenario that Democrats are dreading

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/2020-election-democrats-281470

    excerpt:

    In early April, Jason Furman, a top economist in the Obama administration and now a professor at Harvard, was speaking via Zoom to a large bipartisan group of top officials from both parties. The economy had just been shut down, unemployment was spiking and some policymakers were predicting an era worse than the Great Depression. The economic carnage seemed likely to doom President Donald Trump’s chances at reelection.

    Furman, tapped to give the opening presentation, looked into his screen of poorly lit boxes of frightened wonks and made a startling claim.

    “We are about to see the best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country,” he said.

    The former Cabinet secretaries and Federal Reserve chairs in the Zoom boxes were confused, though some of the Republicans may have been newly relieved and some of the Democrats suddenly concerned.

    “Everyone looked puzzled and thought I had misspoken,” Furman said in an interview. Instead of forecasting a prolonged Depression-level economic catastrophe, Furman laid out a detailed case for why the months preceding the November election could offer Trump the chance to brag — truthfully — about the most explosive monthly employment numbers and gross domestic product growth ever.

    Since the Zoom call, Furman has been making the same case to anyone who will listen, especially the close-knit network of Democratic wonks who have traversed the Clinton and Obama administrations together, including top members of the Biden campaign.

    Furman’s counterintuitive pitch has caused some Democrats, especially Obama alumni, around Washington to panic. “This is my big worry,” said a former Obama White House official who is still close to the former president. Asked about the level of concern among top party officials, he said, “It’s high — high, high, high, high.”

    And top policy officials on the Biden campaign are preparing for a fall economic debate that might look very different than the one predicted at the start of the pandemic in March. “They are very much aware of this,” said an informal adviser.
     
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    What?

    So now black folks are followers and also can't figure out what candidate is for what?

    What are you basing this on that black voters thought Biden supported M4A?

    This is day 2 of you ******** on black voters, when did you start having such discontent?
     
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    This makes no sense it's about more than economic numbers, if it was all about that Trump would have been over 50% approval at some time in his presidency.

    Do you think these unemployment numbers are going to be under 10% by november?

    Nobody is gonna care about numbers, they are gonna care if they have a job and a job that is paying them the same, what about the employees who businesses have closed?

    I hope people will be going back to work in droves by Nov but I don't see demand recovering by that time.
     
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    https://californiaglobe.com/section...ots-if-ca-goes-all-mail-in-nov-2020-election/

    This is concerning. It just seems to me that being able to verify a registered voter is a good idea. Are you telling me that there have never been any issues with mail in votes? (yes....you just stated it)

    I'm not saying it needs to be done away with entirely. But how can you do it on such a large scale and expect there not to be some fraud....most likely on both sides? Advantage goes to the best 'cheater'?? If retail and restaurants can open within the recommended safety guidelines then so can the polling locations unless another bout of the 'VID hits in the fall and we retract back into 'Phase 1'. Obviously, if it can be done safely, that would be the best option, in my opinion.
     
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    That's your opinion that Biden was just elected because of electability and I am getting pretty tired of people belittling the vote for Biden on that simple premise, stop being condescending.

    There could never be another FDR type presidency with the way politics have become a zero sum game.
     
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    1,000 cases over the last 30 years of voter fraud - and 90% of those were convicted - this is from the white house's webstie - ironically in league with the heritage foundation - a right wing nonprofit.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/docs/pacei-voterfraudcases.pdf

    Also - good article on how states haven't had issues with mail in votes and that signitures are cross checked with registrations

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...laims-about-mail-vote-fraud-here-are-n1180566

    Where is the issue?
     
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    The expert in the article mentions that he thinks there will still be around 12% unemployment, and that it will basically be a toss up of whether voters go for what the economy is doing at that point in time (rebounding) or if they see the big picture.

    I agree with you and think most people will see big picture...unless Biden just completely ***** the bed around election time and the economy completely exceeds even these expectations. 12% unemployment is still 12% unemployment in a day and age where 3-4% was the norm for most of the last 7 years. That's a ton of people affected...and the polls don't seem to say that those people are blaming the quarantine for why they are at home.
     
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    Maybe because this is nothing new and it has not been a problem before?

    https://electionlab.mit.edu/research/voting-mail-and-absentee-voting

    In the 1980s, California became the first state to allow eligible voters to request absentee ballots for any reasons at all, including their own convenience. By 2018, 27 states had adopted no-excuse absentee laws. Figure 2 classifies states according to their absentee/mail ballot regimes. According to respondents to the 2018 EAVS, 26% of voters in no-excuse states cast their ballots by mail, compared to 9% in states that still required an excuse.

    Romney counters Trump: 90 percent of 'very Republican' Utah votes by mail

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...percent-of-very-republican-utah-votes-by-mail
     
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    The 'first lady' of the United States has literally done low budget p*rn.
     
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    It seems that he was basing this on the best number ever without going into what those numbers are or how they will affect the everyday person.

    He also seems to base these best numbers on the fact that they will be better than historically negative numbers and the movement will be to get where we were which not everybody was happy about.

    It definitely will not factor in the underemployed and wage recession.
     
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    Alright. Sounds fool proof to me.
     
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    link? Asking for a friend.
     
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    Not that there is anything wrong with that.
     
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    You gotta pay the bills some way.
     
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    Absentee voting ... is ... vote by mail.

    Using the Criminal in Chief weak ass logic ...

    Since Trump votes absentee in Florida (from his Mar-a-lago nonresidence residence), he has committed voter fraud. His ass needs to be thrown in jail.
     
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    Time to get this family packing in November!!

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