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Keep schools closed until a Vaccine is ready!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. davidio840

    davidio840 Contributing Member

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    I’m all for keeping our kids safe and if that means learning from home, so be it. My questions are, what do the parents do that have to work to put a roof over their kids head and feed them? Are they just going to quit their job to stay home? Is the government going to force employers to keep an employee on the payroll because they have to teach their kids at home while not being as productive in their job duties?
     
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  2. ROXRAN

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    let’s let those in the field of science make the decisions, here’s some educated doctors of children on their views ...
     
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  3. Nook

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    Ehh

    The American Academy of Pediatrics has said children should not return to COVID hot spots.

    My personal opinion is that I will have my son return... but I am in a state where the governor took quarantine serious unlike Abbott and there aren’t a lot of COVID cases... if they rise where I am, I will readdress the issue.
     
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    UBI
     
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  5. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    No, it was unanimous! Jr said it so it must be true. This politicing was all expected when trump make this a political issue. He and his family needs to just STFU for once and let the adults in the room try to figure this out.
     
  6. davidio840

    davidio840 Contributing Member

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    Lol. And just print more money?
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    well.... yea, why not ... look at what the fed has been doing

    (i'm kidding, just partially)
     
  8. peleincubus

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    I agree with you and was prepared to do so. But AISD in Austin said first 3 weeks from home.

    I haven’t told my soon to be 5th grader yet. His select soccer, select bball and Muay Thai/Jui Jitsu practices have all been canceled. The only damn thing that’s not canceled is his Japanese tutoring.

    My kiddo is friendly and sociable and comfortable being at his same school for an upcoming 7th year (pre-K-5th). It’s all taking its toll for sure.

    I would like to extend a thank you to all that are responsible on this state and country that have made this pandemic the worst in this country. All those people arguing with memes and spreading your unscientific data You folks are the true heroes on all of this.
     
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    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Select soccer in Austin is still going - maybe they just delayed it?

    DD
     
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    They practiced 3-4 times and when the statistics worsened they stopped.
     
  12. tinman

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    DD is the bus driver





    taking everybody to school!
    @Os Trigonum

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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Some of the issues that I see:

    1. If the rule is that students with a fever cannot come to school, what happens when one such student shows up and parents insist on keeping them in school because they are working and cannot afford to miss work?

    2. If a student comes from an anti-mask family and insists on showing up to school, do they get escorted off campus by security?

    3. What kind of testing and distancing regime are gonna be in place? What resources are going to be devoted to enforce them?

    4. If some of the students are in class physically while others are joining remotely at the same time, what tools and training are there to ensure that both groups have a meaningful learning experience? I know from personal experience that one does not simply stick a webcam and microphone in front of a teacher and expect everything to translate.
     
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    Open schools... have smart kids make vaccine... test on weak kids... profit.
     
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    The fact that now 1 teacher now has to teach in-person AND online is wild. I'd definitely quit if I was a teacher. I feel sorry for yall teachers. To me this is absolutely protest-worthy.

    Let's ask the PARENTS what THEY want. Let's ask the ADMIN what THEY want. Let's ask POLITICIANS what THEY want. Teachers - we expect yall to FOLLOW ORDERS.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Doing the in person + online synchronous and simultaneous instruction can be done. However, it would require the correct tools in terms of hardware and software devices, which schools would need to spend money acquiring and spend time training on their use. Moreover, a teacher would have a natural tendency to pay more attention to those there in person than those joining remotely even with the right tools available. If I were a parent, I would ask your school and district what they are doing to make this situation suck to the least possible degree.

    Trump's mandate that all schools must open in person without giving any specific instructions and resources on how to do it effectively and safely is totally a "Do something, Morey!" move.
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    That's not what I'm hearing from the TEACHERS that nobody seems to be asking. They are telling me you basically have to create 2 different lesson plans to do it effectively (pre-high school age specifically).
     
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    Hmm, is there a specific school district that is doing it that way? I believe most schools are doing it like this.

    * A teacher will either be and in-person teacher or a distance learning teacher. Not both.
    * Each of these teachers will have "one class" of roughly the same amount of students. Let's say 30 students.
    * The distance learning teacher will meet with all 30 of her students online 4 days of the week for about 3 hours per day. The fifth day of the week the DL kids will just be off or doing worksheets with no instruction.
    * The In-person teacher will have her class divided up into two groups of 15 students each. We'll call them Group A and Group B.
    * Group A will come in for 6 hours two times a week (Tuesday/Thursday). Group B will also come in 6 hours two times a week (Monday/Wednesday). The teacher would basically be giving the same lessons each week to both groups.
    * The other 3 days of the week the in-person students are just given "asynchronous" worksheets and will have no instruction.

    At least this is how it's proposed to work at our school district, and I believe it's the same for most others that I have seen.

    It definitely seems like the distance learning teachers get a much better deal as they only have face time with the kids for about half the time. I realize the DL teachers would have to work a little bit extra planning their online lessons, but I feel like that wouldn't come close to making up the difference. Then of course, the in-person teacher wouldn't be "teaching" the full 6 hours a day, but they'd still basically have to monitor the students for close to the full 6 hours. Maybe I'm missing something, but it does seem like the in-person teacher are 1.) working more hours and 2.) taking a bigger risk. Seems like they should get paid more (or at least DL teachers getting paid less to make it work). Kind of surprised I haven't heard of any schools proposing that, but I'm sure there's some bureaucratic reason why that wouldn't work. A pay difference may also help close the gap in the number of teachers who would choose in-person as opposed to DL.
     
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